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Posted by: John Macgregor ® 03/09/2005, 03:38:48 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

I’ve had 40+ emails from exes since my apology to M - many of them quite angry. I’m sorry I haven’t got round to answering most: hopefully this will do. I pretty much stopped posting in 2002 at the end of my ‘crusading’ phase, and still dislike it - so I’ll be brief. I’m naturally sorry exes are upset. There seem to be several theories: that I’ve struck a secret deal with IRCC, have Stockholm Syndrome, am acting on the instruction of a therapist, apologised in a desperate attempt to appease IRCC or M & get them off my back, or am so psychologically battered I don’t know what I’m doing... None are accurate. My apology was sincere and unconditional; was 100% my own idea; & can be taken at face value. It took six months to raise the courage to post it (and to overcome the objections of others) - & I’ve felt about 100 pounds lighter since doing so. I appreciate that some want further discussion, but sorry, I can’t do the email back-and-forth any more, especially to so many. It’s very wearing, and tends to generate more heat than light. I’m hurting psychologically, financially and physically, and have a haul ahead of me. Could I gracefully retire from the fray now? Best Wishes, John

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mazeltov! --- dant ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 04:53:48 ) ( 1672 bytes ) What is it you want, John? --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 04:58:32 ) ( 1123 bytes ) +1 He doesn't appear to understand what a discussion forum is --- JHB ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 05:37:12 ) ( 823 bytes ) link +1 Of course, you're right, John... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 06:20:44 ) ( 154 bytes ) Angry emails? (no text) --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:00:23 ) ( 0 bytes ) John, here's how you can demonstrate your apology is sincere --- JHB ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:10:16 ) ( 671 bytes ) Like you said............. --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:26:03 ) ( 574 bytes ) +2 despite anything, feel free to return someday. (no text) --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:34:08 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: New to forum.... be fair John --- Hussain ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 08:49:50 ) ( 458 bytes ) Re: I have mail --- Will ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 09:38:06 ) ( 2559 bytes ) +2 Whatever next?? --- The Falcon ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 10:19:11 ) ( 193 bytes ) To be fair... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 10:29:28 ) ( 2298 bytes ) +1 Re: To be fair... --- Izzatso ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 01:02:49 ) ( 280 bytes ) +1 Ha.Ha.Ha. Really! --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 01:48:39 ) ( 22 bytes ) +2 Hi Cynthia, --- Jethro ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 01:58:29 ) ( 81 bytes ) +1 Re: Hi Jethro, --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 07:03:35 ) ( 234 bytes ) Re: Ha.Ha.Ha. Really! --- Izzatso ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 01:49:25 ) ( 29 bytes ) +1 Re: Ha.Ha.Ha. Really! --- Cynthia ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 06:07:49 ) ( 93 bytes ) +1 Anonymous, spineless jerk, but probably American --- Joe ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:50:58 ) ( 372 bytes ) +2 Yes, the millionaire, thought it sounded familar, lol! (NT) --- Cynthia ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 14:53:34 ) ( 13 bytes ) Re: Anonymous, spineless jerk, but probably American --- PatD ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:46:59 ) ( 1174 bytes ) +2 No connection to Perry or Burr... --- Cynthia ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:00:26 ) ( 664 bytes ) +1 Really, I could have sworn it was Raymond Burr... --- Joe ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:39:46 ) ( 177 bytes ) Re: Anonymous, spineless jerk, but probably American --- Joe ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:37:52 ) ( 631 bytes ) WHO CARES? RAWAT IS A RUTHLESS ABUSER, NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT! --- Toby ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 09:41:39 ) ( 326 bytes ) Sorry I didn't e-mail, John --- gerry ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 10:48:09 ) ( 268 bytes ) +1 Neither did i, hell who filled John's postbox? (no text) --- Toby ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:45:14 ) ( 0 bytes ) ** From the Moderators to John Macgregor ** --- Admin ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:17:54 ) ( 425 bytes ) +2 Re: ** From the Moderators to John Macgregor ** --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:59:20 ) ( 214 bytes ) +1 No, Bill, that's jumping the gun -- John's not a liar, he's just hurtin' --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:14:53 ) ( 267 bytes ) +1 Actually, John is also being careful --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:30:01 ) ( 1413 bytes ) +1 Re: Actually, John is also being careful --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:50:56 ) ( 1729 bytes ) +1 I disagree, Cynth --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:00:40 ) ( 948 bytes ) +2 And the sad fact is...... --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:10:05 ) ( 1745 bytes ) +1 Re: The facts are not so sad --- Tom Gubler ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 21:01:46 ) ( 2662 bytes ) +1 Re: The facts are not so sad --- Joe ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:24:12 ) ( 2171 bytes ) +1 Re: The facts are not so sad --- paddy ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:05:33 ) ( 1794 bytes ) +3 Byron Bay --- PatD ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 16:16:21 ) ( 562 bytes ) The facts are tremendously sad and pathetic... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 16:30:28 ) ( 935 bytes ) Well, of course you're right, Paddy --- Joe ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 16:40:45 ) ( 2548 bytes ) +1 Re: The Tall Poppy Syndrome --- paddy ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:08:10 ) ( 2035 bytes ) Don't get me wrong... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:10:27 ) ( 619 bytes ) A public announcement about moderation-not for discussion. --- AJW ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 05:09:06 ) ( 775 bytes ) +2 Wake up Anth --- NikW ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 07:47:05 ) ( 1289 bytes ) +2 Yawn....I only just went to bed. --- AJW ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:23:54 ) ( 1231 bytes ) +1 bedtime stories --- dant ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:33:29 ) ( 1417 bytes ) Hey, Nik, let's not give all the credit to the new policies --- Babaluji ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:10:29 ) ( 867 bytes ) +1 Sandford too dominating? --- AJW ( Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 05:29:09 ) ( 745 bytes ) +1 Free Sanford. Free Speech. --- Lexy ( Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 07:36:35 ) ( 1702 bytes ) +1 San's status on this forum --- Pacific Mod ( Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 01:44:36 ) ( 1383 bytes ) +2 Showcase Forum ? --- Lexy ( Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 06:43:41 ) ( 1736 bytes ) +1 Re: Showcase Forum ? --- AJW ( Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 03:35:30 ) ( 897 bytes ) +1 I'm a "dangerous nutter".....( edited later) --- Lexy ( Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 07:41:47 ) ( 561 bytes ) +1 Sarcasm has it's place, Lexy... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:29:15 ) ( 5030 bytes ) link +1 Get off my back , Cynthia. --- Lexy ( Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 17:36:34 ) ( 626 bytes ) +1 Unfair... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 17, 2005, 05:19:49 ) ( 616 bytes ) Oh dear... --- AJW ( Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 03:16:51 ) ( 1125 bytes ) There are different ways to see this, Anth --- Jim ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:25:15 ) ( 3821 bytes ) +1 I prefer to look at the situation cross-eyed. --- AJW ( Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 05:20:32 ) ( 1555 bytes ) I know you are "hurting psychologically, financially and physically" --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:24:14 ) ( 1923 bytes ) Here's the one email I sent you --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:49:39 ) ( 4952 bytes ) +1 are you sure you hit "ENTER" only once ? (no text) --- Toby ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:57:56 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 That's funny, Toby, but you raise a good question --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 14:48:23 ) ( 322 bytes ) +1 The appearance of opposition -- helpful to John? --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:13:37 ) ( 1001 bytes ) +2 Come to think of it, I'm VERY SKEPTICAL indeed! --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:21:58 ) ( 535 bytes ) +1 Errr. .. Jim, John's email address is on EPO White Pages --- JHB ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:13:27 ) ( 396 bytes ) link +1 Never let facts get in the way of a good theory --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 18:07:22 ) ( 678 bytes ) You probably have nailed it. (no text) --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:54:02 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: I have mail --- PatD ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:26:47 ) ( 590 bytes ) +2 Priceless, Pat! --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:46:31 ) ( 79 bytes ) +1 Dante is some ex-premie --- Tempora ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:42:24 ) ( 189 bytes ) +1 Re: Dante is some ex-premie --- george ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:28:48 ) ( 86 bytes ) +1 Inner death of Leonard Cohen --- Tempora ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:29:59 ) ( 731 bytes ) The weird thing is --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:48:36 ) ( 696 bytes ) "hurting psychologically, financially and physically" --- Bunny ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:04:18 ) ( 1357 bytes ) John - just fade away --- Tempora ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:05:11 ) ( 669 bytes ) Ok, it's strange to be using F8 as a forum, but... --- Babaluji ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 00:40:35 ) ( 1863 bytes ) +2 I don't understand your post --- JHB ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 01:26:45 ) ( 461 bytes ) That's interesting... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 01:44:44 ) ( 199 bytes ) important stuff here --- Susan ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 13:10:04 ) ( 638 bytes ) +1 why do I get so upset about John M's posts? --- Susan ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 13:38:38 ) ( 1325 bytes ) +2 Interesting speculation -- and one raised eyebrow --- Jim ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:15:17 ) ( 442 bytes ) +1 Re: Interesting speculation -- and one raised eyebrow --- Susan ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 20:20:37 ) ( 1094 bytes ) I don't see that, Susan --- Joe ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:35:56 ) ( 851 bytes ) +1 that is true extreme would be going back --- Susan ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 20:08:11 ) ( 913 bytes )