Any takers?

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01/22/2005, 04:24:18
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It’s interesting to see exes still claim that Maharaji said he was God.
The irony is, it seems that only exes ever heard Maharaji say he was God.
In his first major talks in the US and England in 1971. Maharaji made it absolutely clear that he didn't believe that God was a human being.
On September 17th, 1971 at Boulder, Colorado, Maharaji said - “Some people think God is a human being, but he is not. God hasn’t got ears like us, nose like us, eyes like us, mouth like us, teeth, tongue, lungs, chest, bones. He isn’t like that.”
On November 2nd, 1971 in Westminster, England, Maharaji said- “The world thinks, people think, God is a man. People think God has got ears, nose, teeth, and he rises daily in the morning, brushes his teeth and washes his mouth. And he is an old man and he has a beard. All these things, people think.
But no, God is energy. God is perfect and pure energy”.
Could he be any clearer?
And just to make sure every premie understood, in 1973 Maharaji sent the film “Satguru has come” to every premie community around the world, so all premies would hear Maharaji’s say “God is perfect and pure energy” and not a human being.
Which explains why, in the nearly 20 years famous exes Bob Mishler and Michael Dettmers were Maharaji’s close confidants, they never heard Maharaji Ji use the word 'god' to describe himself.

Will any ex be brave enough to break away from the group think and agree that Maharaji made it absolutely clear in 1971 that he couldn’t possibly be God and has not deviated from that opinion since.
I don’t think so.
I expect a barrage of irrelevant quotes (ie. none of which will be Maharaji saying “I am God”), transparent attempts to change the subject and irrelevant criticism of me and my post.

PS The old chesnut "Guru is greater than God" comes from Kabir and others and refers to the common Hindu and Buddhist idea that God is everywhere but people can't experience God without the help of the Guru.

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I'll bite --- dant ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 05:06:59 ) ( 1733 bytes )
We have discussed that way over..... --- Toby ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 06:01:08 ) ( 683 bytes ) +2

Talk about pots calling kettles... --- Cynthia ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 06:05:30 ) ( 198 bytes )
(Somewhat OT) SSB's claims of divinity are unambiguous and Moon is the Messiah --- Andries ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 01:22:58 ) ( 873 bytes ) link +1

Re: (Somewhat OT) SSB's claims of divinity are unambiguous and Moon is the Me... --- Toby ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 03:59:38 ) ( 320 bytes ) +1

Re: (Somewhat OT) SSB's claims of divinity are unambiguous and Moon is the Me... --- Andries ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 04:33:19 ) ( 555 bytes ) +2

beautiful experiences --- dant ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 05:11:11 ) ( 1983 bytes ) +1

Salvaging something positive from a bad experience --- Andries ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 15:11:15 ) ( 712 bytes ) +1

Re: Salvaging something positive from a bad experience --- Mike Finch ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 16:07:02 ) ( 1366 bytes )

Re: (Somewhat OT) SSB's claims of divinity are unambiguous and Moon is the Me... --- Cynthia ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 06:18:05 ) ( 1361 bytes ) link

Actually, I'm a giver but I'll take a shot --- San ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 06:08:32 ) ( 1423 bytes )
Re: Any takers? --- Pat W ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 06:14:07 ) ( 944 bytes )
A practicing premie asked me to submit this interesting perspective --- Pat W ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 06:23:24 ) ( 5273 bytes ) +6

The premie disconnect... --- Cynthia ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 07:10:03 ) ( 2082 bytes ) +1

Unlit Matches --- Duh! ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 15:53:45 ) ( 1554 bytes )

This is the most lucid and sane premie I ever heard --- San ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 08:36:51 ) ( 211 bytes )
Re: A practicing premie asked me to submit this interesting perspective --- Lexy ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 10:10:13 ) ( 3501 bytes )
wow it was great to read that- --- Susan ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 13:41:50 ) ( 3800 bytes ) +2

That open letter to Maharaji --- Susan ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 13:47:29 ) ( 6587 bytes ) link +1

To Susan ( mostly off thread) --- Lexy ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 15:06:53 ) ( 864 bytes ) link +1

to Lexy thanks --- Susan ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 17:19:56 ) ( 64 bytes )

****Best of Forum**** --- Duh! ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 17:24:48 ) ( 933 bytes )

Re: A practicing premie asked me to submit this interesting perspective --- Hilltop ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 00:22:59 ) ( 741 bytes ) file img +1

Another quote by Prem Rawat... --- Hilltop ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 00:34:43 ) ( 152 bytes ) file img +1

Re: Another myth I'd like to see dispelled... --- Cynthia ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 06:24:15 ) ( 466 bytes ) +2

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Hilltop (OT) --- Lexy ( Tue, Jan 25, 2005, 06:50:49 ) ( 41 bytes )

The festering boil at the root of Rawatism --- gerry ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 16:02:36 ) ( 661 bytes )

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Re: This is what slays me... --- Cynthia ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 05:20:20 ) ( 2970 bytes )
The bit of Arti that bemused me... --- Neville B ( Tue, Jan 25, 2005, 20:49:17 ) ( 190 bytes )

That means... --- San ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 08:44:21 ) ( 463 bytes )
That is balderdash, Harry --- Sir Dave ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:18:58 ) ( 972 bytes ) +2

Umegawwwwd!!!!!!! .......... I did get it wrong!!!!!! --- Harry ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:48:53 ) ( 613 bytes ) +2

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Snakes Alive ! --- Lexy ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 20:27:09 ) ( 1276 bytes ) +3

Prem Rawat talk from Copenhagen... --- Hilltop ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 01:29:43 ) ( 44 bytes ) file img
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Re: Snakes Alive ! --- Sir Dave ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 06:50:33 ) ( 2077 bytes ) +1

The view from Dog Kennel Hill. --- Lexy ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 17:53:46 ) ( 2583 bytes )

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Change of words in Arti --- Ian Vincent ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 11:47:18 ) ( 388 bytes ) +1

You're right Ian --- PatD ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 17:15:02 ) ( 75 bytes ) +1

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Re: Words to Arti on EPO --- Jean-Michel ( Mon, Jan 24, 2005, 04:38:42 ) ( 289 bytes )

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Mishler --- NikW ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 09:50:56 ) ( 1568 bytes ) link
Re: Any takers? --- Marshall ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 10:03:35 ) ( 908 bytes )
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Hey Babaluji ! Thought you'd gone to the ball.....??? --- Lexy ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 15:26:56 ) ( 79 bytes ) +1

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Don't worry agent Babbleuja --- Sir Dave ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 23:07:15 ) ( 277 bytes )
Re: Yes, and I've been taken prisoner, LOL, Babaluji... --- Cynthia ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 05:51:13 ) ( 447 bytes )

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you are kidding, right? --- SilviaB ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 11:52:07 ) ( 584 bytes ) link
This is Intuiitively obvious to the most casual oberserver --- San ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 12:16:50 ) ( 2784 bytes ) +1

Prem Rawat and his "God Quotes" --- Hilltop ( Sun, Jan 23, 2005, 01:55:56 ) ( 63 bytes ) file img

Re: Any takers? --- creativejani ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 12:49:26 ) ( 66 bytes )
Not a leaf moves . . . yada, yada: who are you kidding? --- Duh! ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 12:53:10 ) ( 1866 bytes ) link +1

DOH! Now he tells us! --- Cynthia ( Sat, Jan 22, 2005, 13:06:10 ) ( 1440 bytes ) +1

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