We all have voices
Re: Those who gave the most, lost the most.... -- Joe	Top of thread		Forum

Posted by: Thorin ® 05/31/2005, 15:42:54 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Great thread!  Very thought provoking. I'm not so sure about the dividing line between fence sitters and everyone else, I agree with Shelagh it is not as black and white as that.  However I also agree with the general thrust that those who gave the most lost the most. I do think that everyone, wherever they are on the continuum, has a valid point of view worth expressing and worth listening to.  There is no dividing line between those who 'gave' and those that did not 'give' other than through some arbitary mental process.  We all gave a lot, some more than others, we all sacrificed a lot, some more than others.  We all were influenced by the coercion, some more than others. We all feel an anger and regret as to what happened, some more than others.  Many may feel they did not give or sacrifice a lot, indeed many may feel they did not suffer much coercion. In all cases, regardless where anyone is on the continuum, I believe we all have a voice that is unique and worth listening to.  I would be deeply saddened if it was felt that only non 'fence sitters' had a voice worth listening to. T

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Re: We all have voices --- shelagh ( Tue, May 31, 2005, 16:43:30 ) ( 650 bytes ) Thorin... you do realize that ... --- Danny ( Wed, Jun 01, 2005, 23:23:53 ) ( 2401 bytes ) +4 I do now and apologise --- Thorin ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 01:45:43 ) ( 1547 bytes ) +1 No need... we are all in this together --- Danny ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 09:01:47 ) ( 889 bytes ) Re: Thorin... you do realize that ... --- Jonti ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 02:43:31 ) ( 1419 bytes ) link +1 Jonti... you are an exception to the rule! LOLOL! --- Danny ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 09:10:38 ) ( 370 bytes ) enough is enough --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 06:38:51 ) ( 8779 bytes ) +7 You do rather ask for it Livia --- hamzen ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 09:14:05 ) ( 637 bytes ) Is enough ... enough? --- Danny ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 09:36:53 ) ( 1850 bytes ) +2 Re: Is enough ... enough? --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 17:43:53 ) ( 3496 bytes ) +3 Don't be stupid, Livia --- Jim ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 18:57:32 ) ( 907 bytes ) +1 Rawat, A PUBLIC HAZZARD good one Jim (no text) --- Henna ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 17:17:55 ) ( 0 bytes ) Apology??? --- Danny ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 01:16:39 ) ( 3541 bytes ) Re: Rawat is a minor public hazard but also agree with Livia --- Andries ( Sun, Jun 05, 2005, 04:28:56 ) ( 443 bytes ) +1 oh, Andries --- Henna ( Mon, Jun 06, 2005, 17:10:23 ) ( 326 bytes ) Re: Is enough ... enough? --- Rjchinook ( Sat, Jun 04, 2005, 02:43:24 ) ( 357 bytes ) Your post is rather humorous, Livia --- Jim ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 11:27:28 ) ( 1128 bytes ) +1 Re: Your post is rather humorous, Livia --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 12:43:08 ) ( 1475 bytes ) +2 Liv, small question if I may? --- Thorin ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 13:15:46 ) ( 513 bytes ) +1 Re: Liv, small question if I may? --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 17:21:54 ) ( 1451 bytes ) +2 I thought you'd retired Livia.... --- PatD ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 20:09:35 ) ( 2202 bytes ) Re: Liv, small question if I may? --- Rjchinook ( Sat, Jun 04, 2005, 04:16:16 ) ( 399 bytes ) You're not thinking clearly, Livia --- Jim ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 13:59:52 ) ( 4023 bytes ) +1 Re: You're not thinking clearly, Livia --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 17:58:02 ) ( 2147 bytes ) +3 No, Livia, you do need to be picked apart. --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 18:17:59 ) ( 848 bytes ) +1 Re: No, Livia, you do need to be picked apart. --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 19:02:22 ) ( 1355 bytes ) +2 Gosh, maybe that's true, but I always thought... --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 19:21:02 ) ( 521 bytes ) Re: No, Livia, you do need to be picked apart. --- Rjchinook ( Sat, Jun 04, 2005, 15:53:12 ) ( 1248 bytes ) Re: You're not thinking clearly, Livia --- Jim ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 19:00:42 ) ( 369 bytes ) so don't post --- Henna ( Sun, Jun 05, 2005, 01:30:53 ) ( 5 bytes ) Livia is right. I'm moving on. I've been here more than 2 years --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 16:11:18 ) ( 780 bytes ) img +4 Re:Babaluji, is that your pic? (no text) --- Andries ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 16:35:28 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 That's me, alright, Andries. The years have gone by so fast and... --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 17:30:18 ) ( 677 bytes ) ROFL! What a great joke! BABALU.... you have made my day! (no text) --- Danny ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 17:26:59 ) ( 0 bytes ) I think we should have Term Limits here at the forum --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 21:50:26 ) ( 230 bytes ) Re: Livia is right. I'm moving on. I've been here more than 2 years --- bill ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 22:20:39 ) ( 200 bytes ) Livia, you are doing the same as Danny --- JHB ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 18:50:09 ) ( 1104 bytes ) +1 to John --- Livia ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 19:18:27 ) ( 1835 bytes ) +3 You're repeating that ridiculous analogy --- Jim ( Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 19:25:21 ) ( 668 bytes ) This is why you offend posters here, Livia --- JHB ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 00:52:52 ) ( 691 bytes ) +1 Thanks, JHB, and... --- Babaluji ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 01:39:32 ) ( 1609 bytes ) +1 Re: Thanks, JHB, and... --- Rjchinook ( Sat, Jun 04, 2005, 03:53:47 ) ( 995 bytes ) This shocks me --- Jonti ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 01:47:14 ) ( 1056 bytes ) Trying to set the parameters of the discussion... --- Cynthia ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 07:32:30 ) ( 9567 bytes ) That age-old dilemma, Livia --- Sir Dave ( Sun, Jun 05, 2005, 13:50:16 ) ( 706 bytes ) Re: Thorin... you do realize that ... --- Sulla ( Fri, Jun 03, 2005, 00:57:46 ) ( 2358 bytes )