Livia: No, that's true. But at least you're prepared to accept part of the responsibility.

So, the victims must take on part of the guilt?

No one thinks like that Livia, except crooks and shills and the people that hire them. It's been pointed out time and again to you, by folk ranging from Susan to gerry that your arguments give license to the exploiter and blame the victims instead. You would legitimise the bearing of false witness and outright perjury on the grounds that that those who are decieved are responsible for that deception. But you are wrong, for it is the liar that is responsible for his lies, not those he deceives.

Can you see where your attitudes lead, Livia? What kind of a society do you want for yourself and for the rest of us? I think the Livia that complained about Tony Blair's methods has been kidnapped and replaced. Or corrupted by cash.

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