So again I state that I have no respect for someone that (example) stuck their toe in the water and then left the beach claiming that they know exactly what swimming is AND THEN CRITISIZE THOSE THAT ACTUALLY WERE FULLY SUBMERGED IN THE WATER AND ARE NOW SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT. ... (see posts from Elaine, Jonx, Livia and other's) I think it is worth pointing out that a person who takes *that* line, and also claims "nevers" like myself can have nothing valid to say (because we've never been premies at all) cannot possibly be sincere. They can't have it both ways!
I know jonx and elaine have taken the view that "nevers" can have nothing useful to say, and indeed have no right to say anything at all on the subject of Rawat and his teachings. But I've no reason to suppose that Livia also was here only hypocritically to posture and bear false witness.
my point is that those that had not ever taken m or his 'agya' seriously CANNOT FATHOM WHAT PAIN M HAS INFLICTED.
True, even tho' sympathetic imagination can go a surprising distance towards that goal. More importantly, anyone can listen and assess the sincerity and credibility of the testimonials available either right here on the forum or in the Journeys section of the ex-premie.org site.
Jonti
--never a premie
