Danny, did all the submerged ones know exactly what swimming is? Some people never swim but know exactly what swimming is. I hope that the ones that aren't speaking out are not the ones that drowned because they didn't know. 

 

You were maybe suggesting or putting as an example the ashram premies as the fully submerged, but even if you were to include the outsiders, it's not your business or anybody else's to have or not have respect for any of us regardless of where we were, or where we think we were, or where you think that you or any of us were. Your point is irrelevant, stop the judging and the preaching. We were all in the same rotten sack, don't condemn any of us, we all had enough, as was said, for you have come up with this stupid theory measuring an internal loss that can't be measured. Ashram premies sincerely thought they would be more happy or better premies, doing exactly what they thought Maharaji wanted them to do. The problem was that some of them became bitter because they didn't feel as happy, or as better as other non ashram premies, but  instead of leaving, they stayed. There was a lot of spiritual ego going around in those days. To be a premie was the supreme accomplishment any human being could aspire to, above any carriers, or family we could have or not. And we were that, above all except M, because without him we were nothing. The bad thing in any situation or circumstance we were in, is that M resulted to be a big liar. But the good thing is that here we are, mistreated, but free and alive, above nothing, under nothing, more experienced, more humble.