My Experience never got that far...
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Posted by: MickCable ® 07/13/2005, 17:27:04 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

I never got that far into it... I am not trying to say I am any better than those who got sucked into it for years, but I was able to get out without having to lose my shirt, I only paid for 2 videos and that was end of it... I first ran into "M" when I was in my early 20s and it was about 1996 or 1997 I had a boss who had been following this guy around since the 70s. One day I noticed he had a cool looking watch, and I asked him where he got it. He said it was very special and had some deep symbolic meanings and that if I wanted to know more about it, he would tell me later. (The watch had symbols that repersented the 4 steps of "K") Then one day after work he started telling me about this cool place were people go to watch videos and learn to live a more peacful and blissfull lives, he said it wasn't a cult or any kind of high pressure deal, he said if I didn't talk to anyone they wouldn't bother me. Just come check out a video presentation. My first reaction was yeah this sure sounds like a fishy cult to me, maybe I'll go check it out and have something to hang over my boss's head someday if need be. So I went to a video event, and it was just like he said, failry normal looking people just sitting around watching a video, no one asked for my personal information, and we watched a video. I had always known with proper training meditation could produce euphoric effects and it seemed like that is what it was going to lead to. He made references about those at their last breath etc. My boss cornered me after work the following day and asked what I thought, I said well what's the deal? does this guy have some meditation techniques that help zone you out? My boss said he couldn't tell me, but said that I was very smart and perceptive and would be a likely cannidate for "K" Well everyone likes being told they are smart and special and the events seemed very harmless and I started to go to video events on a regular basis, I quickly realized whatever "K" was, it was nothing that great on the surface, the videos were geared to grow this curiousity and desire for "K" so that by the time you received it, you were ready to explode with anticipation. I figured that if you followed the program no matter what the guy did even if he spit on you, you would be so filled up with these expectiations and desires for "K" you would think it was a good thing. I would have left, but I started to get a lot better assignments at work, I knew it was a bunch of BS, but it was such a non-pressure situation, I figured it wouldn't hurt to keep it up and there was always an outside chance this guy discovered some cool natural high. After about 4 months there was a live event with "M" in person near where I lived, and after that is when I realized that this was a cult for sure, some of the people at the event were really wierd, and refered to him as lord of the universe, and I learned about "service" for the first time, since I lived in the LA area, a lot of these people were doing stuff at his house, scrubbing his toliets, etc. I overheard a coversation were a woman was saying how her life was blessed after staying at his home for weeks scrubbing floors. I told my boss the next week, that it was the end of the road for me, I told him that I respected his choices but I didn't see me as enjoying a life of "service" he said it was unfortunite that I overheard those conversations and that I was not ready for that yet, that when the times comes I will enjoy it and do it freely and lovingly. This really made me wonder what else was being kept from me, more and more I realized the biggest trap of it all was the no pressure, no big deal attitude at the first video events. That how they reel you in. By the fact that absoultely nothing is upfront about "M" I had had enough. End result I got fired, aka laid off, and it all worked out okay, I got a much better job after all. I never thought much about it again until very recently. I accidently ran across an article about "M" and subsequently found several websites of ex-premies. I didn't realize how luckly I was that I got out when I did. I always thought that the guy was pretty much harmless and got off on adoration. I was also wondering how was I able to walk away so easily nobody tried to reel me back in. Is my story typical, or was I just really lucky that I had no fallout, or harrasment? would love to hear your feedback MC

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Abuse of Power --- JHB ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 18:34:41 ) ( 481 bytes ) link Re: My Experience never got that far... --- jonx ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 18:40:09 ) ( 916 bytes ) +4 Of course it's not a cult, Jon --- JHB ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 18:47:13 ) ( 185 bytes ) +1 Re: Of course it's not a cult, Jon --- jonx ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 19:17:14 ) ( 985 bytes ) +5 What is the substance? --- gerry ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 19:21:47 ) ( 396 bytes ) So if it was once a cult, Jonx, was Rawat once a cult LEADER? --- Jim ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 22:39:34 ) ( 239 bytes ) +1 See my note to JHB <eom> (no text) --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 12:55:40 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 Why? So you can slip out of answering? --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 13:17:48 ) ( 104 bytes ) +2 And btw, here's another question you can avoid! --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 13:34:53 ) ( 1600 bytes ) +2 Re: Here is my 2 cents on how he got to where he is... --- MickCable ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 14:59:08 ) ( 1507 bytes ) +2 You know, that's as good an assessment as any (with one caveat) --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 17:09:24 ) ( 390 bytes ) +2 The cleanliness obsession is an interesting one you missed Mick too --- hamzen ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:31:53 ) ( 48 bytes ) +1 Re: The cleanliness obsession is an interesting one you missed Mick too --- MickCable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 01:48:54 ) ( 90 bytes ) +1 Big fear of germs --- hamzen ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 05:52:04 ) ( 149 bytes ) Re: You know, that's as good an assessment as any (with one caveat) --- MickCable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 01:47:41 ) ( 332 bytes ) +1 Yes and no, Mick --- Jim ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 18:19:46 ) ( 1541 bytes ) +1 Re: Yes and no, Mick --- mickcable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 21:42:42 ) ( 164 bytes ) He doesn't give a damn about his own mother. --- gerry ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:19:21 ) ( 134 bytes ) Re: And btw, here's another question you can avoid! --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:09:12 ) ( 1912 bytes ) +1 This is very laughable, Jonx -- always a pleasure! --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:57:30 ) ( 476 bytes ) Re: Why? So you can slip out of answering? --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 17:47:52 ) ( 1111 bytes ) +1 You're talking out of both sides of your mouth (as usual) --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:12:20 ) ( 630 bytes ) +1 You're displaying the depth of a slug Jim (as usual) --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:25:15 ) ( 318 bytes ) +1 Don't blame me for your dilemna --- Jim ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 20:29:49 ) ( 364 bytes ) +1 Re: Don't blame me for your dilemna --- jonx ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 10:49:56 ) ( 2066 bytes ) +4 I challenged you on substance, jonx and you ignored me --- gerry ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 11:36:09 ) ( 1732 bytes ) The reason your argument lacks merit --- JHB ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 13:03:39 ) ( 624 bytes ) Yet another hilarious, unintentional admission on your part, Jonx! --- Jim ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 13:07:07 ) ( 350 bytes ) +1 You really are a fool Jim --- jonx ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 04:45:18 ) ( 728 bytes ) +3 Jon, do you really believe propagation is happening? --- JHB ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 08:27:49 ) ( 678 bytes ) +1 You'd be a fool to think it isn't --- jonx ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 08:33:26 ) ( 148 bytes ) +1 Answer my post about Arti and Darshan --- JHB ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 08:58:12 ) ( 325 bytes ) +1 Re: Answer my post about Arti and Darshan --- jonx ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 17:41:23 ) ( 257 bytes ) +3 Jon, where's your pride? --- Jim ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 18:10:32 ) ( 2940 bytes ) So why can't you just be honest --- JHB ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 18:55:54 ) ( 425 bytes ) Re: Answer my post about Arti and Darshan --- MickCable ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 23:50:31 ) ( 510 bytes ) +1 Yes, MC, you're completely right -- but there's more --- Jim ( Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 11:31:38 ) ( 485 bytes ) +1 Re: Yes, MC, you're completely right -- but there's more --- MickCable ( Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 17:51:19 ) ( 596 bytes ) Oh my God, I can't believe you just did that AGAIN! LOL!! --- Jim ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 10:41:21 ) ( 892 bytes ) +1 Re: Oh my God, I can't believe you just did that AGAIN! LOL!! --- jonx ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 17:56:30 ) ( 389 bytes ) img +1 I did read it -- and I've got your number perfectly, IMHO --- Jim ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 18:24:26 ) ( 339 bytes ) Is this the same K that Jesus, Buddha, and Krishna taught? --- gerry ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 11:36:31 ) ( 1407 bytes ) +2 Yeah, and they were so well received, weren't they? (no text) --- jonx ( Sun, Jul 17, 2005, 17:57:44 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Is this the same K that Jesus, Buddha, and Krishna taught? --- MickCable ( Mon, Jul 18, 2005, 00:00:16 ) ( 84 bytes ) +1 Almost missed this post, Mick --- gerry ( Tue, Jul 19, 2005, 09:31:59 ) ( 150 bytes ) Discussion??? --- Danny ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 16:58:26 ) ( 938 bytes ) But, Jon, you still kiss his feet and sing Arti! --- JHB ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 01:27:45 ) ( 569 bytes ) +1 Re: But, Jon, you still kiss his feet and sing Arti! --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 12:55:00 ) ( 1273 bytes ) +1 I could almost feel sorry for you --- premie_spouse ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 14:35:43 ) ( 490 bytes ) This Sounds like a good time to talk about 'Agya' --- Hilltop ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 01:48:17 ) ( 319 bytes ) file img Utter BS! --- Danny ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 09:14:33 ) ( 2486 bytes ) +2 Great points, Danny. Great thread. This is a ***BEST*** --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 11:47:03 ) ( 336 bytes ) link +1 Re: Great points, Danny. Great thread. This is a ***BEST*** --- MickCable ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 15:10:32 ) ( 418 bytes ) +1 MickCable, your presence is certainly appreciated --- Babaluji ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 15:59:00 ) ( 1653 bytes ) +1 Re: MickCable, your presence is certainly appreciated --- MickCable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 02:14:44 ) ( 2159 bytes ) Re: Utter BS! --- jonx ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:35:49 ) ( 853 bytes ) +2 Re: Utter BS! --- Danny ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 21:59:06 ) ( 2448 bytes ) Re: Utter BS! --- MickCable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 02:21:16 ) ( 760 bytes ) Sorry, jonx, it still is a cult. --- Babaluji ( Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 19:38:57 ) ( 1171 bytes ) img Regarding Service... It means you are a servant or (slave) --- Hilltop ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 00:39:21 ) ( 119 bytes ) file img Re: My Experience never got that far... --- MickCable ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 01:25:12 ) ( 827 bytes ) +2 Well said! (no text) --- Danny ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 08:44:56 ) ( 0 bytes ) "power over" or "power with"? --- shelagh ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 10:36:18 ) ( 1268 bytes ) +1 Re: "power over" or "power with"? --- MickCable ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 14:43:01 ) ( 523 bytes ) +2 Re: "power over" or "power with"? --- shelagh ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 18:53:32 ) ( 592 bytes ) re meditation --- shelagh ( Thu, Jul 14, 2005, 19:15:16 ) ( 1518 bytes ) +1 Re: re meditation --- MickCable ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 02:32:46 ) ( 586 bytes ) +1 Thanks MC! nt (no text) --- shelagh ( Fri, Jul 15, 2005, 08:47:23 ) ( 0 bytes )