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Posted by: Jim ® 03/09/2005, 16:28:53 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

I hereby challenge any of you to show me one, little thing that Andrew Cohen says anywhere that's even remotely intellectual.  You know, I'm reading Dawkins' The Ancestor's Tale.  I think Joe mentioned reading it before.  I'm only a few chapters in but I can safely say that, as clear and compelling a writer as Dawkins is, there's nothing easy about this book.  It takes some concentration and thought, for me at least, to keep this from being a page turning fly-over.  But Cohen?  And all his fellow bullshit artists in these dialogues?  It's quite the opposite, really.  Lots of dross and puffery but, well, there's simply nothing behind it.  So, the big irony here is that I'm reminded of one of the reasons I liked Rawat way back when.  He didn't play that game.  He was very straightforward in a sense.  Here's the experience, check it out, you'll see what's what, I'm God, you can't understand it but you can deeply enjoy it ....  It was a simple message but a message nonetheless. Now, of course, he's kept the simplicity but has removed the essential elements that once made his message complete.  Now it's the vaguest, emptiest jumble of words imaginable.  He's hiding behind these entirely superficial platitudes and the premies are stuck listening to this nothingness forever.  Luckily we will, in fact, die one day.  But can you imagine if that weren't the case?  Scary! Anyway, I'm getting off-topic from my off-topic post.  Here are the Cohen endless koans ...   Related link: Cohen dialogues

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Here's a taste of the gobbledy-gook (OT) --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:53:01 ) ( 11.4 KB ) link +4 The whole discussion is them criticising others. --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 21:45:22 ) ( 104 bytes ) +1 This guru got a -double life- sentence. --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 22:12:54 ) ( 3417 bytes ) +1 Re: I had signed a petition for his release, stupid me --- Andries ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:29:31 ) ( 54 bytes ) Re: Here's a taste of the gobbledy-gook (OT) --- george ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:58:51 ) ( 776 bytes ) +2 Don't ask Cohen.... he wouldn't have a clue --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:29:44 ) ( 74 bytes ) Ask Guru Geriji... --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 13:37:10 ) ( 532 bytes ) +1 I know, I know.......... --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 13:49:20 ) ( 463 bytes ) +1 What you're experiencing is a postmodern satori, nothing to get excited about. --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:28:51 ) ( 197 bytes ) I held my nose and read this and was surprised... --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:41:19 ) ( 256 bytes ) You people are all living in Pluralistic Flatland like a bunch of Flatworms!) --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:50:04 ) ( 456 bytes ) You're so ironic, Jim... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:57:50 ) ( 1094 bytes ) +2 Point at issue: does this deserve to be called "intellectual"? --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:02:04 ) ( 76 bytes ) Ask and ye shall receive, Cynthia --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 09:20:32 ) ( 1265 bytes ) +1 It makes perfect sense to me --- Neville B ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:07:18 ) ( 472 bytes ) +1 If they were simply speaking of creativity, you'd be right --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:27:57 ) ( 2009 bytes ) Forget Cohen - read what this intellectual giant said! --- JHB ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:48:24 ) ( 1047 bytes ) +3 Re: Forget Cohen - read what this intellectual giant said! --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:54:45 ) ( 814 bytes ) Re: (OT) Hey John shall we play chess on Yahoo? I'll beat u for sure (no text) --- Andries ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:55:33 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 If I win, will you seriously discuss cult apologists? --- JHB ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 18:05:29 ) ( 23 bytes ) +2 Re: (OT) go to yahoo games and then chess, userid andrieskd (no text) --- Andries ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 19:19:38 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Yes, but I don't want to make charicatures of people's opinions (no text) --- Andries ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:22:26 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 All well and good, Andries... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:43:02 ) ( 245 bytes ) link +1 Re: (somewhat OT) will do later...... now I am emotionally wrecked by Wikipedia --- Andries ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 13:06:16 ) ( 889 bytes ) +1 You're emotionally wrecked? --- Cynthia ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 01:13:17 ) ( 1099 bytes ) +1 Re: Wikipedia started as a hobby but I tend to gravitate to subject that I am... --- Andries ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:54:41 ) ( 602 bytes ) link +1 Re: Wikipedia started as a hobby but I tend to gravitate to subject that I am... --- Cynthia ( Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 09:56:50 ) ( 12.3 KB ) +1 Re: (somewhat OT) yeah, rewriting my short essay on "brainwashing" ... --- Andries ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 06:46:37 ) ( 943 bytes ) +1 You don't want to communicate, Andries... --- Cynthia ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 08:09:47 ) ( 1388 bytes ) +1 Re: Cynthia, how do I get over the cult? --- Andries ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 09:52:30 ) ( 84 bytes ) +1 That's a really strange reply, Andries --- JHB ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 11:08:10 ) ( 960 bytes ) +1 Re: Of couse it was a learning experience --- Andries ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 11:16:42 ) ( 77 bytes ) +1 Re: Of couse it was a learning experience --- Cynthia ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 12:09:12 ) ( 1983 bytes ) +1 are you saying you can't relate to Andries' feeling? --- cq ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 12:17:36 ) ( 564 bytes ) +2 Fine, cq --- Cynthia ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 12:26:09 ) ( 551 bytes ) +1 Well, hurrumph to you too, madam! --- cq ( Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 12:44:46 ) ( 1885 bytes ) +1 Before you go off on a counseling tangent... --- Cynthia ( Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 17:17:01 ) ( 1900 bytes ) Re: only time helps with recovery --- Andries ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 15:31:39 ) ( 493 bytes ) link +2 Bobby Fischer figured out the whole con........ --- Lexy ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 17:29:49 ) ( 4134 bytes ) link Re: only time helps with recovery --- Lexy ( Sun, Mar 13, 2005, 17:54:34 ) ( 631 bytes ) +1 Re: Hee Lexy the Lurker, nice you are still around (no text) --- Andries ( Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 16:36:07 ) ( 0 bytes ) For the love of ........ that is the stupidest thing I've heard, yet! --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 09:29:07 ) ( 1083 bytes ) Its another version of the rawat =-thirst-= spiel. --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 21:32:51 ) ( 793 bytes ) +1 Ken wilbur defacates a giant load on A Cohen. --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 21:39:30 ) ( 995 bytes ) +1 So there JIM! Dawkins doesnt even know about the GREEN meme. (no text) --- bill ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 21:41:41 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 Yeh, I saw that -- they're like monkeys playing with typewriters (no text) --- Jim ( Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 22:48:05 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 And we have a winner!!!!!!!!! (**** Best of ????? *****) --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 09:49:47 ) ( 302 bytes ) Jim, you may have hit on something --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 09:43:24 ) ( 1661 bytes ) +1 Well, I see it this way --- Neville B ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:23:58 ) ( 806 bytes ) +2 I disagree, Neville --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:44:05 ) ( 1768 bytes ) +1 You misunderstand, NAR --- Neville B ( Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 15:38:02 ) ( 622 bytes ) Or maybe we were just spoiled brats --- hamzen ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:54:12 ) ( 203 bytes ) +2 Exactly, Hammy, you echoed my sentiments! (nt) (no text) --- NAR ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:59:11 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Or maybe we were just spoiled brats, er, well... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:46:18 ) ( 423 bytes ) It's a harmful philosophy --- Will ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:53:29 ) ( 3539 bytes ) +2 boy will, that go you going... --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 13:30:13 ) ( 1731 bytes ) +1 Re: boy will, that go you going... --- Will ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 16:18:20 ) ( 3191 bytes ) +1 Well I was tripping last weekend and I realized ... --- gerry ( Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 17:09:21 ) ( 61 bytes ) Re: Ken Wilber is not a student --- Tom Gubler ( Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 19:27:59 ) ( 494 bytes )