Re: My question for GOK
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Posted by: godonlyknows ® 10/31/2004, 20:48:01 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

You could say that he discourages that belief now, but it's not so much that he discourages THAT belief now, it's more that he discourages ANY belief now - in favour of understanding and realisation. And he wishes to present his message now in a way which avoids using any religious terminology or labels (though it's very difficult to avoid using any labels or descriptions whatsoever). He does not wish to be labelled and put in any category which would misrepresent his message or give people the wrong impression. He wants people to see him for what he is, see Knowledge for what it is, and not through preconceptions which may be distorted or inaccurate. So I would say he discourages any kind of belief about him in favour of understanding him through one's personal experience (of practicing Knowledge). Everyone has different personal experience, some may have deeper realisations than others, it's a very personal matter, and Maharaji doesn't want anyone telling other people what they should believe about him. Knowledge is not a belief system. He wants people to understand for themselves - to realise through experience (Knowledge) rather than merely believe. As I have said a few times previously, he does not say that he is NOT "the Lord", he does not say that he is NOT "Satguru", he does not say that he is NOT "Perfect Master". (If you think that he has ever said that he is NOT "the Lord", or NOT "Satguru", or NOT "Perfect Master", could you show me some evidence, tell me where he said it - in what publication, on what tape or CD can it be found?) At expressions events - where some premies in the audience speak personally to Maharaji - a few premies have occasionally referred to his "divinity" (as you call it) - not referring to him as "God", but as "Lord" or something similar - and he did not say anything to discourage them from saying what they said. I hope that answers your question.

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PS To Susan and others --- godonlyknows ( Sun, Oct 31, 2004, 20:55:13 ) ( 168 bytes ) Here's the proof you wanted (for the umpteenth time -- boring!) --- Jim ( Sun, Oct 31, 2004, 20:58:47 ) ( 2141 bytes ) +3 What will it take, GOK? --- Jim ( Sun, Oct 31, 2004, 21:26:03 ) ( 1999 bytes ) +1 Think quarks --- Candy ( Sun, Oct 31, 2004, 23:08:00 ) ( 553 bytes ) It is very simple JIM! --- G. ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 01:42:23 ) ( 779 bytes ) +1 Re: It is very simple JIM! --- G. ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 02:08:51 ) ( 182 bytes ) Calm down Jim --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 17:34:46 ) ( 5385 bytes ) +2 Re: Calm down Jim --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 17:47:58 ) ( 1430 bytes ) +2 QUIT STALLING! (no text) --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 18:03:00 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Yessssss..........? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:03:23 ) ( 326 bytes ) Another example of premie dishonesty -- I'm gobsmacked! --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:12:09 ) ( 776 bytes ) +1 Re: Another example of premie dishonesty -- I'm gobsmacked! --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 20:38:55 ) ( 1587 bytes ) Let me see if I understand you -one question at end --- Susan ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 10:47:04 ) ( 3599 bytes ) +1 Re: Let me see if I understand you -one question at end --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 17:13:16 ) ( 2006 bytes ) +2 Are you going to answer me too, GOK? --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 17:21:28 ) ( 556 bytes ) +1 Re: Are you going to answer me too, GOK? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:28:14 ) ( 1773 bytes ) +2 You liar!! --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:44:26 ) ( 284 bytes ) +1 Re: PR --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 20:46:36 ) ( 302 bytes ) One more example of your not splitting hairs! LOL!!!! --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:54:02 ) ( 702 bytes ) +1 Re: One more example of your not splitting hairs! LOL!!!! --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 21:24:58 ) ( 2148 bytes ) +2 Splitting hairs? Facts are facts, GOK --- cq ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 14:00:06 ) ( 558 bytes ) Gok can you grok --- lesley ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 15:03:35 ) ( 1313 bytes ) my answer --- Susan ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 17:53:27 ) ( 713 bytes ) +1 Re: your answer --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:53:11 ) ( 1590 bytes ) +2 Why even talk to this person? --- Jim ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 19:56:18 ) ( 268 bytes ) +1 Re: she's not worth another moment wasted. You will never get a straight ans... --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 21:31:37 ) ( 144 bytes ) +1 Gok- --- Susan ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 21:41:54 ) ( 54 bytes ) +2 Re: Do you think that Moonies think they are cult members? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 22:11:47 ) ( 61 bytes ) +1 yes of course they do (nt) --- Susan ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 08:28:37 ) ( 2 bytes ) Re: Do you think that Moonies think they are cult members? --- godonlyknows ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 22:37:33 ) ( 1164 bytes ) +3 Re: Do you think that Moonies think they are cult members? --- toby ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 23:41:36 ) ( 513 bytes ) Your in a Cult GOK ~ It shows in everything you say... --- Hilltop ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 23:44:33 ) ( 115 bytes ) file +1 Your in a Cult GOK ~ Please read this attachment! --- Hilltop ( Mon, Nov 01, 2004, 23:57:26 ) ( 61 bytes ) file no that isn't my logic --- Susan ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 09:03:44 ) ( 2105 bytes ) +2 "If Prem Rawat is what God, Lord or Satguru is, well, I want nothing to ... --- cq ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 14:46:48 ) ( 1002 bytes ) Re: I need to step out of this fray --- godonlyknows ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 19:52:35 ) ( 28 bytes ) Gok doesn't know who Joe is... Gok please meet Annie! --- Hilltop ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 00:24:39 ) ( 175 bytes ) file +1 Gok ~ Here's a few words you may be able to relate to... --- Hilltop ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 00:51:16 ) ( 279 bytes ) file img +1 Gok ~ More truth for ya ~ Please re-read this... --- Hilltop ( Tue, Nov 02, 2004, 01:18:24 ) ( 64 bytes ) file +1 Re: Gok ~ More juicy gossip for ya ~ Please read this... --- Lexy ( Wed, Nov 03, 2004, 04:49:39 ) ( 1523 bytes )