What "trust" means
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Posted by: Joe ® 03/21/2005, 11:34:22 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Well, I'm an ex-premie, and certainly trust people, but what being ripped off by Maharaji has taught me is what the meaning of "trust" really is.  It's not the kind of use-car-salesman "trust me" that Maharaji employs, it's something that is earned, and is stronger as a result. The only way Rawat got me to trust him, was to convince me that I couldn't get what he was offering without complete, blind, faith.  You have to jump off the cliff and trust him completely without even getting what he supposedly offers before you can get it.  Then after you get it you have to trust him completely or you can't have the "experience."  The result is a circular trap, but the vast majority of people who fall into the trap do get out of it, as Rawat has lost about 90% of his followers. So, Rawat has the ultimate scam, and it doesn't last for most people -- most people wise up.  Others, I am afraid, continue in the endless ponzi scheme, hoping that if they continue to double their bets, they will finally get what was offered in the first place.   Modified by Joe at Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 12:32:57

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Re: What "trust" means --- paddy ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 15:32:10 ) ( 580 bytes ) +1 "Trusting" that you got what was promised --- Joe ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 16:39:38 ) ( 711 bytes ) +1 Re: "Trusting" that you got what was promised --- paddy ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 21:53:45 ) ( 1086 bytes ) +2 Like the two classic theatrical masks, comedy and tragedy --- Jim ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 22:18:41 ) ( 1387 bytes ) +1 Re: Like the two classic theatrical masks, comedy and tragedy --- paddy ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 23:00:01 ) ( 766 bytes ) +1 Were Dracula's victims happy? --- Jim ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 23:13:42 ) ( 282 bytes ) +1 Re: It's not as if he's a lawyer --- paddy ( Mon, Mar 21, 2005, 23:34:42 ) ( 496 bytes ) +1 If this were a debate, I'd say you just shot yourself in the foot --- Jim ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 10:36:20 ) ( 584 bytes ) +2 well said, Jim --- lesley ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 15:25:10 ) ( 534 bytes ) +1 Re: Not much longer on the merry-go-round --- paddy ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 16:57:39 ) ( 390 bytes ) +1 one foot nailed to the floor --- lesley ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:55:52 ) ( 1259 bytes ) +1 Re: one foot nailed to the floor --- paddy ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 17:12:45 ) ( 495 bytes ) +1 Something extra to be gained in life --- JHB ( Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 01:02:20 ) ( 1190 bytes ) +2 Good one, John --- Jim ( Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 01:22:59 ) ( 982 bytes ) Re: Something extra to be gained in life --- paddy ( Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 16:26:12 ) ( 1379 bytes ) +2 Re: Something extra to be gained in life --- Cynthia ( Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 07:07:06 ) ( 3153 bytes ) out of the frying pan and into the fire --- lesley ( Fri, Mar 25, 2005, 14:32:48 ) ( 966 bytes ) Re: If this were a debate, I'd say you just shot yourself in the foot --- paddy ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 17:05:03 ) ( 1021 bytes ) +1 It's not ad hominem if there's a relevant interest --- Jim ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 17:43:48 ) ( 754 bytes ) +1 Re: It's not ad hominem if there's a relevant interest --- paddy ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 19:39:02 ) ( 825 bytes ) +1 Involvement is based on deception... --- Cynthia ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 06:45:19 ) ( 2263 bytes ) +1 Re: Involvement is based on deception... --- paddy ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:09:52 ) ( 826 bytes ) +1 Re: Involvement is based on deception... --- Cynthia ( Thu, Mar 24, 2005, 06:26:25 ) ( 2846 bytes ) But the question is enjoying in comparison to WHAT? --- Joe ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 18:09:00 ) ( 2932 bytes ) +1 Re: But the question is enjoying in comparison to WHAT? --- paddy ( Tue, Mar 22, 2005, 19:52:15 ) ( 1089 bytes ) +1 Re: But the question is enjoying in comparison to WHAT? --- Joe ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 13:04:30 ) ( 1240 bytes ) +1 Re: But the question is enjoying in comparison to WHAT? --- paddy ( Wed, Mar 23, 2005, 15:20:59 ) ( 1203 bytes )