Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji
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Posted by: Andries ® 12/29/2004, 18:28:54 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

From "Een nieuw licht op de kerk? -- Bijdragen van nieuwe religieuze bewegingen voor de kerk van vandaag/A new perspective on the church -- Contributions by NRMs for today's church" ISBN 90-239-0809-0 Published by Boekencentrum, the Hague, 1984. This is not a book published as part of Kranenborg's work on NRMs at the Vrij Universiteit in Amsterdam but he wrote this book from his personal, Christian perpective. As usual he is generally fair and accurate. Chapter "III Why did they become members?" section "3 Main moments: the guru and the experience" "The guru has near absolute power. In many cases total surrender is demanded. The disciple does not know anything, the master knows everything. This surrender is an assignment because the disciple needs to distinguish when he needs to obey his master and when not. A good example of a guru with near absolute power is Guru Maharaj Jiof the Divine Light Mission."

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Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Mike Finch ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 03:09:08 ) ( 1056 bytes ) +1 Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Andries ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 07:59:49 ) ( 1357 bytes ) +2 I disagree about two things --- Jim ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 08:57:39 ) ( 3226 bytes ) +2 The world cult does not explain things --- Andries ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 13:14:26 ) ( 1042 bytes ) +1 Re: The world cult does not explain things --- Jim ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 14:44:24 ) ( 2491 bytes ) Re: I disagree about two things --- jonx ( Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 16:03:02 ) ( 1460 bytes ) +1 Here's why you simply MUST be wrong, jonx --- Jim ( Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 16:55:34 ) ( 2808 bytes ) +1 Re: Here's why you simply MUST be wrong, jonx --- jonx ( Wed, Jan 05, 2005, 18:27:11 ) ( 2120 bytes ) +1 Boy, Jonx, you really ran out of steam there, didn't you? --- Jim ( Wed, Jan 05, 2005, 19:21:39 ) ( 4359 bytes ) +1 Re: Boy, Jonx, you really ran out of steam there, didn't you? --- jonx ( Sat, Jan 08, 2005, 18:37:58 ) ( 2866 bytes ) +1 You missed the whole point, Jonx -- surprising, really --- Jim ( Sat, Jan 08, 2005, 20:22:16 ) ( 4044 bytes ) +1 Re: You missed the whole point, Jonx -- surprising, really --- jonx ( Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 15:14:15 ) ( 1068 bytes ) +1 You didn't answer the question, Jonx --- Jim ( Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 16:21:47 ) ( 3245 bytes ) +1 Re: You didn't answer the question, Jonx --- jonx ( Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 18:21:58 ) ( 1581 bytes ) +1 You're losing site of the ball, I'm afraid, Jonx --- Jim ( Mon, Jan 10, 2005, 20:15:41 ) ( 3264 bytes ) +1 Re: You're losing site of the ball, I'm afraid, Jonx --- jonx ( Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 13:46:37 ) ( 7391 bytes ) +1 So Rawat's like Einstein and I'm homophobic? LOL!!!! --- Jim ( Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 15:01:27 ) ( 796 bytes ) +1 Cop out --- jonx ( Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 17:04:52 ) ( 97 bytes ) +1 If that's your honest opinion, so be it --- Jim ( Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 17:33:27 ) ( 341 bytes ) +1 Re: If that's your honest opinion, so be it --- jonx ( Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 17:48:00 ) ( 456 bytes ) Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Cynthia ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 09:54:38 ) ( 1602 bytes ) +2 Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Toby ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 11:04:36 ) ( 933 bytes ) +1 Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Jim ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 11:08:12 ) ( 189 bytes ) +2 How do you know that that is accurate Jim? --- Andries ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 11:36:42 ) ( 474 bytes ) +1 I've read enough to know --- Jim ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 21:25:04 ) ( 349 bytes ) Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Toby ( Thu, Dec 30, 2004, 11:39:34 ) ( 557 bytes ) Why treat NRM scholars as enemies? Barrett & I do have some questions for... --- Andries ( Fri, Dec 31, 2004, 10:52:12 ) ( 2234 bytes ) +2 The real question is why treat them like SCHOLARS? --- Jim ( Fri, Dec 31, 2004, 13:57:10 ) ( 249 bytes ) Re: Why treat NRM scholars as enemies? Barrett & I do have some questions... --- Cynthia ( Fri, Dec 31, 2004, 14:05:39 ) ( 1773 bytes ) +1 As someone who appreciates "Spoonerisms" ... (OT) --- cq ( Sun, Jan 02, 2005, 10:15:40 ) ( 300 bytes ) +1 Re: As someone who appreciates G.W. Bush style Dyslexia. --- Lexy ( Sun, Jan 02, 2005, 11:57:41 ) ( 215 bytes ) +1 Raising our glasses to you, Lexy ... --- cq ( Sun, Jan 02, 2005, 12:10:52 ) ( 117 bytes ) +1 as opposed to glazing our - ahem ... --- cq ( Mon, Jan 03, 2005, 15:00:40 ) ( 150 bytes ) file img +1 Re: Pussy that got the cream... --- Lexy ( Mon, Jan 03, 2005, 19:41:07 ) ( 150 bytes ) file img +2 Blissful Pussy... --- Hilltop ( Mon, Jan 03, 2005, 22:42:40 ) ( 57 bytes ) file img OK, hands up, puddy-tat, dis is a stick-up --- cq ( Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 06:48:45 ) ( 1653 bytes ) file img Re: Dr. Reender Kranenborg about Guru Maharaj Ji --- Andries ( Sat, Jan 01, 2005, 10:29:24 ) ( 410 bytes )