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Posted by: paddy ® 10/10/2005, 18:26:30 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

In recent disagreements with Reporter I've been quite open about the "techniques of Knowledge" and I've been a little surprised that Reporter has to a certain extent discussed them as well. "Revealing" the techniques was the biggest sin back in the 1970's and I've thought about this a little. Am I doing something wrong by discussing them when I made the following vow: 'Oh my Guru Maharaji, I dedicate myself to your lotus feet. I am weak and ignorant and am filled with the impurities of this world. Oh Guru Maharaji, please take my mind and purge me of the impurities I possess. Reveal to me the knowledge of all knowledge. Strengthen me, uplift me and reveal the kingdom of heaven within inside of me. Bring me from hate to love, from darkness to light, death to immortality. I will OBEY you implicitly and will never reveal this knowledge to anyone for any reason. I will keep in contact with you through my DEVOTIONAL LOVE, satsang,meditation and service. Thank you my LORD for everything.' Not that I remember the exact vow as I got that from the ex-premie site. All I can remember is something like "Oh my Guru Maharaji, you can do anything ..." Was that something we said back then? I was quite sincere back in 1973 but even at the time I knew I wasn't making that vow to the picture of the pudgy young Rawat or to his actual person in the US. That would have been ridiculous for me but certainly since I had become involved in DLM I had been able to connect to the idealistic, spiritual part of myself much more and I had experienced concentrated enjoyment in Satsang that I hadn't anywhere else so I made that vow to my Guru Maharaji, my revealer of light and truth, God. At the time I expected there possibly was a deep connection between the boy and God that may become visible in the future, certainly most of the premies who had come before me and were presumably more advanced in meditation and realisation said so. I later decided that this wasn't so but for family reasons I left well enough alone so to speak and didn't bother to publicly discuss the topic for decades. Now, to a certain extent (as I'm much older and no longer have those youthful illusions) actually telling the truth and refuting those cynical lies by Reporter is also putting me into greater contact with that idealistic, truthful part of myself through breaking that vow.

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Re: Knowledge Vows --- Sir Dave ( Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 18:42:05 ) ( 1400 bytes ) link +1 Re: Knowledge Vows --- paddy ( Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 18:50:56 ) ( 744 bytes ) +1 Why bother indeed --- Sir Dave ( Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 20:15:47 ) ( 1411 bytes ) +1 But Sir Dave, you're not getting the full experience --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 09:18:30 ) ( 288 bytes ) Re: Knowledge Vows --- NikW ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 02:43:47 ) ( 1192 bytes ) +3 Re: Knowledge Vows --- toby ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 03:00:14 ) ( 536 bytes ) Re: Lack of Discussion --- paddy ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 03:21:40 ) ( 333 bytes ) +1 Re: Lack of Discussion --- shelagh ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 09:29:45 ) ( 3680 bytes ) Re: Knowledge Vows --- Lexy ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 18:12:45 ) ( 245 bytes ) +2 Re: Knowledge Vows --- paddy ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 22:33:25 ) ( 864 bytes ) +1 Rennie Davis owes us an explanation (no text) --- Neville B ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 10:12:09 ) ( 0 bytes ) It was the pineal gland --- PatD ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 15:19:33 ) ( 1212 bytes ) +2 Eye tests --- T ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 15:57:32 ) ( 826 bytes ) +1 Re: Eye tests --- PatD ( Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 07:37:54 ) ( 1349 bytes ) Re: It was the pineal gland --- Lexy ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 15:58:39 ) ( 868 bytes ) +1 More on the pineal gland --- JHB ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 16:03:00 ) ( 351 bytes ) +1 Re: More on the pineal gland --- 13 ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 17:46:57 ) ( 237 bytes ) +1 Re: Expose pineal gland to light --- paddy ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 02:47:20 ) ( 134 bytes ) +1 drilling for sure! --- 13 ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 02:59:35 ) ( 519 bytes ) +1 Re: I'm not so sure (OT) --- paddy ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 17:36:32 ) ( 468 bytes ) file img A Vow, to whom? --- toby ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 02:51:19 ) ( 750 bytes ) +2 Re: A Vow, to whom? --- shelagh ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 10:05:49 ) ( 567 bytes ) About the swearing of oaths --- shelagh ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 11:07:11 ) ( 658 bytes ) My vows were made to a Satguru, not an "inspirational speaker" (no text) --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 09:20:54 ) ( 0 bytes ) +1 Re: My vows were made to a Satguru, not an "inspirational speaker" --- migwell ( Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 11:45:44 ) ( 2838 bytes ) +1 Experience of the techniques. --- AJW ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 04:16:13 ) ( 549 bytes ) +1 Re: Experience of the techniques. --- migwell ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 08:02:40 ) ( 922 bytes ) +2 Re: Experience of the techniques. --- 13 ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 08:15:07 ) ( 481 bytes ) +1 right on 13 --- T ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 08:49:17 ) ( 86 bytes ) +1 Re: right on 13 --- migwell ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 10:17:36 ) ( 1143 bytes ) +1 Re:al bliss? --- paddy ( Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 22:15:21 ) ( 486 bytes ) +1 Bliss is what I meant --- 13 ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 00:31:39 ) ( 2606 bytes ) +1 Re: Bliss is what I meant --- paddy ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 01:31:45 ) ( 923 bytes ) +1 Re: Bliss is what I meant --- 13 ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 01:42:56 ) ( 856 bytes ) +2 Making a connection here.. --- Bryn ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 06:49:43 ) ( 2463 bytes ) +1 wet kippers --- 13 ( Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 07:30:15 ) ( 853 bytes ) Re: all down to interpretation --- paddy ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 02:55:51 ) ( 661 bytes ) +2 Re: all down to interpretation --- 13 ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 03:04:36 ) ( 277 bytes ) Krishna''s tunes. --- AJW ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 04:40:56 ) ( 316 bytes ) +1 Re: I thought it was just a really, really dark tan (no text) --- paddy ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 17:52:33 ) ( 0 bytes ) is bliss pure imagination? --- AJW ( Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 04:31:27 ) ( 511 bytes )