"Where's the joy"
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Posted by: JHB ® 10/03/2005, 01:48:54 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Reporter, First of all, ex-premies take responsibility for their part in believing Rawat, but Rawat must take responsibility for his part in encouraging that belief. Don't you agree? Mandela forgave his enemies when they accepted that what they had done was wrong. When Rawat admits the truth of the information on EPO (or corrects any inaccuracies), and accepts his part in the pain that was caused to many people, both premies and not, then I may forgive him. Until then, it's my duty to warn others. To not do so would be like Mandela being released from prison, going into exile, and staying quiet about the continuing evils of apartheid. OK, not quite so dramatic, but you get my meaning. Look, it's not about blame or hatred - it's about truth. Rawat and premies are lying about the past, and the present. You know this. I know it. Others deserve to know it. Being an online ex-premie, and having met a few others, I know we are driven by the need to speak the truth. We are not driven by hatred. We are not looking for somone to blame, just trying to get people, particularly Rawat, to accept their part in what has happened. You ask "Where's the joy?". I must admit that doing the right thing isn't always joyous, but there is a good feeling deep in the heart that comes from trying to be as truthful and honest as I can (you should try it one day when writing here). My joy comes from the other 95% of my life, like looking out of the window and seeing the sun on the autumn leaves still on the trees, seeing deer come out of the forest to graze on my fields, being part of the many family reunions that have happened this year, and my love life, details of which I will not publish here! The joy is in the ordinary, magical, wonderful things of human life. John. Modified by JHB at Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 01:52:27

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Warn others? --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 03:17:16 ) ( 1555 bytes ) +6 Re: Warn others? --- Toby ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 03:25:39 ) ( 207 bytes ) +1 Actually it's "Keep in touch" --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:04:17 ) ( 145 bytes ) +2 Re: Actually it's "Keep in touch" --- Toby ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:17:42 ) ( 145 bytes ) So you don't even read your Lord's website? --- JHB ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:31:58 ) ( 724 bytes ) link +2 Clearly Reporter isn't in touch! --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 16:42:35 ) ( 280 bytes ) No apology for you John --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:21:48 ) ( 541 bytes ) +3 Re: No apology for you John --- songster ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:27:56 ) ( 139 bytes ) +1 Well done songster --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:36:05 ) ( 132 bytes ) +1 Re: Well done songster --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:12:11 ) ( 68 bytes ) Well I and hundreds of other premies..... --- Lexy ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:37:56 ) ( 387 bytes ) How can you tell it's only a recommendation? --- JHB ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 03:28:30 ) ( 526 bytes ) Following this line of reasoning --- dant ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 03:54:41 ) ( 2296 bytes ) +1 Following this line of reasoning --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:13:16 ) ( 599 bytes ) +3 Re: Following this line of reasoning --- dant ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 16:11:46 ) ( 453 bytes ) +1 Poor Kate --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:28:34 ) ( 310 bytes ) +2 Re: Poor Kate --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:46:08 ) ( 144 bytes ) Re: Poor Kate --- dant ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:50:22 ) ( 768 bytes ) Get real Reporter --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:26:04 ) ( 889 bytes ) Re: Following this line of reasoning --- Steve ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 17:03:20 ) ( 1851 bytes ) +1 very good --- Henna ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 18:41:00 ) ( 273 bytes ) img Re: Warn others? --- Neville B ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 03:57:32 ) ( 393 bytes ) +1 Apologise???? --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:22:48 ) ( 911 bytes ) +8 Re: Apologise???? --- Toby ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 15:32:09 ) ( 424 bytes ) +1 Sure Toby. --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:34:13 ) ( 523 bytes ) +4 Re: Sure Toby. --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:06:07 ) ( 1204 bytes ) +1 Point of order, Anna --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:37:28 ) ( 237 bytes ) +1 gold-plated toilet bowl ? --- 13 ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 06:28:44 ) ( 70 bytes ) YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY NUTS!!!!! --- Henna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 21:17:36 ) ( 377 bytes ) Re: Sure Toby. --- Toby ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 01:15:01 ) ( 468 bytes ) So I guess you DON'T have a relationship with M, then (no text) --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:21:31 ) ( 0 bytes ) Neville, you are "nutty" --- Henna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 16:22:25 ) ( 418 bytes ) +1 So we "never listened", eh? --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:15:02 ) ( 138 bytes ) +1 Burning the Divine Times --- Lexy ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 18:38:29 ) ( 813 bytes ) +2 Good point--I'll have to find a source for that item (no text) --- Neville B ( Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 02:15:02 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Burning the Divine Times --- george ( Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 06:50:10 ) ( 506 bytes ) The guru's private life --- RGJ ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 16:34:47 ) ( 909 bytes ) +1 Rob's faulty logic --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:51:42 ) ( 872 bytes ) +6 Bullshit! --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:25:08 ) ( 1064 bytes ) +1 RIGHT ON Anne --- Henna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 19:07:38 ) ( 544 bytes ) Reporter's usual bs --- RGJ ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 22:32:17 ) ( 1555 bytes ) Here's a better analogy for you, Reporter --- JHB ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 04:35:33 ) ( 1239 bytes ) +3 barbecue sensors --- 13 ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 04:48:45 ) ( 85 bytes ) +1 I can do better than sensors! --- JHB ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 14:59:31 ) ( 270 bytes ) Open and shut case --- T ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 04:50:29 ) ( 613 bytes ) Right on John (no text) --- songster ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 09:29:37 ) ( 0 bytes ) It's like wading through treacle --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:18:53 ) ( 230 bytes ) This Pavarotti cannot sing. This teacher of peace has no peace. (no text) --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:27:03 ) ( 0 bytes ) reporter I agree with you 100% --- Steve ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 18:40:37 ) ( 1254 bytes ) Now you're making me laugh Reporter --- Anna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:41:39 ) ( 676 bytes ) Re: Apologise???? YES! --- Henna ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 19:00:23 ) ( 1033 bytes ) Re: Apologise???? --- Steve ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 20:35:26 ) ( 944 bytes ) and shagging monica, don't forget that --- hamzen ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 20:59:26 ) ( 71 bytes ) Reporter, you have a very stange view of exes --- Neville B ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:07:26 ) ( 738 bytes ) Re: Warn them that Rawat has no secret ingredient --- paddy ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 04:18:17 ) ( 1523 bytes ) +1 Open your eyes (NT) (no text) --- reporter ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 08:31:01 ) ( 0 bytes ) Re: Warn others? --- Dr.wow ( Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 20:09:45 ) ( 2084 bytes ) Simple it is --- Henna ( Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 20:18:35 ) ( 509 bytes )