Well I don't hink there's any room for an honest or honourable premie here on XPF but you cannot judge  premies by those who post here. Most premies that I know (and there's nothing special about them so I assume they're similar to all the others in the West) are nice, decent people. Obviously they're not all that sophisticated when it comes to their religious beliefs and faith but they are nothing like the JONX crew.

Those people who read or post on this forum and who don't know any premies anymore and who judge the remaining premies by these deceitful, arrogant s__theads (and there may not be as many of them as there are aliases) are making a big mistake.

Hi Paddy,

I think I get your point but I'm not sure what to think really.  Yes, I understand, most premies don't have the stomach to come here and lie and insult us and the truth the way Jonx and his ilk do.  It's just so rude and nasty and most people, I should think, steer away from that kind of expression no matter what their views.  So I guess that if the definition of "nice, decent" is just being pleasant with others, I'm sure most premies would qualify.

But isn't there a certain unavoidable compromised integrity on the part of followers who, just like Jonx, wilfully avoid the truth, especially when that truth is that they're supporting someone like Rawat?  I mean, think of this: premies, pretty much by definition I should think, support Rawat's effort to get new followers.  But of course that's only possible with a lot of dissembling and tip-toeing around the truth, to say the least.  Is it "nice" or "decent" for anyone to participate in that charade?  Surely, any recent premie who were to learn what his new premie "friends" had hidden from him in terms of Rawat's dirty laundry or scandals, would have good reason to think not.

No, to me, being a premie is a very ethically-compromised thing to do.  Hell, for all we know, Jonx et al. might themselves be otherwise nice and decent enough in their dealings with others if you accept them on their terms.  But, defending their cult here, they've shown other colours.  Are those other colours really all that different than what other premies have to wear?