No insult intended and none taken either. I have no need to be defensive because I gave up on Rawat as soon as the lies and deceit became obvious to me circa 1980 and because I am writing about my beliefs based upon many premies that I have known up to and including recently. The statements I make are purely my ideas based upon knowing premies and discussion with premies and are certainly not my own beliefs.

So how about answering my questions? I know you won't do a jonx on me.

Why should the majority of premies have any idea of or belief in Rawat's pecadilloes?

As I posted yesterday: "If they hear of such a thing they dismiss it as smear campaigns from a hate group. It's not as if they're seeing exposes on TV about Rawat. In fact, they're now seeing that Rawat is being lauded in the Italian parliament, being feted by congressmen in the US House of Representatives and being awarded keys to the city by cities such as LA."

Publicly it appears as if Prem Rawat and his organisations are doing fine. His public relations campaigns seem to be going very successfully, he has probably put an end to any more bad publicity from Australia and he's still jetting around to his heart's content being adored by anyone with one of his organisations' "smart cards".

So as far as I can see the average premie has no reason to believe any of the allegations made on EPO, etc about Mr Rawat especially as they've been adoring him for 25 years or more and they're not even hearing the allegations. They're not being aired on public TV, on TPRF DVDs or any of the mass media that premies are getting their information from.

I also posted: "The ethical arguments about ends and means has been going on for millenia and so far it's pretty obvious that most humans have no trouble using any means if they believe the end justifies the means."

I'll be a little more specific. Premies believe, if they even think about it, that propagation requires that they be a little tactful when introducing new people to Knowledge and their "inspirational speaker". Most do not consider it lying or deceitful and if they do they square their conscience by believing they are doing the possible newbies a great favour. By letting them in gently they are allowing them the chance to feel the "inner peace" that Maharaji reveals and that is priceless whereas a bald presentation of the truth of Elan Vital would scare them away.

I agree that they are wrong to act this way and incorrect in their ethical judgements but their sins are small indeed compared to much of the evil in the world.