Don't agree on a number of levels Joe on the first part of your post
Re: Circa 1972: "Knowledge is better than drugs." -- Joe Top of thread Forum
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07/19/2005, 09:02:40
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So were many of us. In fact, in the early 70s, the cult was advertised as a way to "get high," to have an experience of high without the drugs. And if you really believe in something strongly enough, you just might have a really "high" experience, and some people apparently did. But of course, that requires faith, belief, and all the rest, and you can get that kind of "high" off "faith" or "belief" in any number of ways. Just look at the "high" people get at Christain Revivals!

But it doesn't last, and it comes at a quite high cost. What you are "experiencing" when you have those, very few, and rare, "highs" in something like the Rawat cult is your own experience of your own faith and belief. It's a very powerful thing, or it can be. But it is NOT worth it, and requires a tremendous cost of your own identity, brain, independence and ability to think.

And I'll just say for myself, I never had any "LSD-like" experience doing Rawat's stuipd meditation. I did get a "high," which was really a "group high" at certain cult events, but that you can get lots of places, and that also did not last. I had what I would call some "pleasant" experiences in meditation a few times, but I only got "high" off of it when I interpreted it as something consistent with my belief system: that Rawat was God, was showing me God, and that I was being transformed by the experience. If you believe that, you might get high.

I still have the same reliable and regular experiences in meditation as ever, with no belief or faith system to sustain it that I'm aware of, other than really relating to the experiences.







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