Re: The claims of naivete..
Re: The claims of naivete.. -- Joe Top of thread Forum
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Tom Gubler ®

07/01/2005, 17:27:54
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Hi Joe,

I know from personal experience that it is quite possible to be intellectually sophisticated and still naive in other respects. At our first meeting, the solicitor played Mr Nice Guy just doing a job. I certainly feel great anger towards the solicitor and deeply humiliated that I caved on his completely unexpected second visit. I really wish I had thrown him out the door though at the time I had been basically had been an invalid for over a month and was not well.

However that affidavit didn't have any effect on what happened to John. Had John obeyed the terms of the court order or sought legal advice and opposed the court order then at worst he would have had to remove the specific information from his computer and be bound never to use or mention that information again. John was apparently in the throes of another short term relationship break up when he was served but he was served properly as was demonstrated when he posted on exp forum that night boasting of how he had beaten the cult lawyers. I'm not sure what he said cause that wasn't included in the court transcripts but he was caught bald facedly lying in court when the posts were presented to the court just after he claimed he had no idea what had happened that day and the EV team had tapes of their serving the order as well. He went to court prepared to bullshit his way through without considering that the EV legal team might have taken steps to ensure the evidence of what actually happened would be presented. I had hoped that this whole affair would die down without me ever having to state the obvious but there it is.

I expected the affidavit to be used and come out into the open but at the time my very quick thinking went something like this: I can buy myself some time, they want things kept secret, they already have the evidence needed to serve John and he has broken no law in publishing that information anyway, this is just ridiculous propaganda that any intelligent person would see as showing EV is a cult. I'll repeat: they already had the evidence needed to serve John and he had broken no law in publishing that information, the affidavit was just ridiculous propaganda that any intelligent person would see as showing EV is a cult.

John had not done anything at that time that had damaging repercussions.

I have been quite comfortable over the last 20 years allowing other people to fight the fight for truth in the case of EV. It was immaterial to me that my wife was a cult member, she is a good, hard-working, responsible, caring person. She goes to work and while I am pretty sure her co-workers and members of the general community know she is involved in some sort of meditation this has no bearing on the respect and liking she engenders in the people who know her.

No there is no fear in my heart. I really always was embarassed about the guru. I remember watching the old movies and maybe later videos scared all right, scared that he would say something that would further reveal what a shallow, narrow, mean-spirited person he was. I was fearful of how this situation with John was going to effect my life but I never once thought of Prem Rawat in all this.






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