Re: Calm down Lexy
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Lexy ®

10/31/2004, 19:15:03
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Good point PatD. I think I got side tracked.

IMO meditation is no help at all with depression and usually impossible as it requires a level of concentration and focus unavailable to a depressed person.It's just something else they are going to fail at.

Prem Rawat' words could build up a false hope ( that nollidge will " cure" them) and then more disappointment. I realise that Rawat never says that nollidge cures depression but an " interested person" may nevertheless infer that this is the case.

From my own experience I feel that the numbing- down,trancey experience of  listening to Satsang may provide some temporary feelings of calm and well being but it is just like trying to cure a brain tumour with a headache pill and sooner or later the real problem will emerge in a far more serious state than if it had been treated earlier. I don't think the depression ever magically goes away but sooner or later must be recognised and treated.

Once a person receives nollidge the feelings of guilt they might have about not being a good enough devotee etc etc ..may make a depression worse, not to mention the negative feelings aroused by trying to do unnatural things like suppress your true critical faculties ( Mr Mind ).

In my case sometimes Rawat's words did help me. That there was such a thing as "love"or "peace" etc...even a caring higher power was a positive thing to hold onto. I can't think of any exact quotes.Maybe the" putting one foot in front of the other " bla bla was useful... 

When I was depressed I certainly didn't need to be worrying about whether Rawat had enough money for yet another airplane or whatever...!

This is actually a very profound point and I'm too tired now to go into any more detail except to say before I forget that IMO one of the main causes of my own breakdown ( or whatever you want to call it ) was not having been allowed ,in my life, to be who I truely was and thus the recovery was a journey of discovery to find the person who had been left behind.complete with all her feelings and thoughts and opinions and ideas and history and entirety... and absolutely nothing to do with the not- allowed- to- think creature that Rawat wants us to be. 

So finally...Can people suffering from depression be helped by Rawat,  and meditation on the nollidge?     I don't think so. 

 

 







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