'So far you have made a point about whether or not Rawat claimed to be God. I find that most people who comment on this issue sound like children. It should be just too, too obvious to even comment about. Of course, he isn't God. That's impossible. The question, of course, should be put another way, such as: Did he claim to be in permanent God-consciousness, and did he claim to be an Avatar? And is an Avatar different from a Satguru and different from an incarnation of God and different from a Messiah figure?'

He didn't say anything whatsoever on these points.

'And another question that you have taken on is whether or not the inner experience that we have experienced is God or not. This is another question that really needs to be asked a little more intelligently. I will go to the other thread and respond to you there.'

Well, he didn't say that either.

So, why are you jumping the gun?

Having followed Prem for about 28 years, then been forced to re-evaluate this a couple of years back, I still feel that, while Maharaji isn't the Lord, nor the Lord of the Age, etc. the energy inside is the immortal energy which floods the creation and which we all belong to.

I find this through interior meditation.

I have read many of your posts, in which you say this same energy is often experienced by people under normal circumstances.

My answer to this would be to say that this energy is not experienced by people at all as a normal matter of course, as you suggest. It might be experienced occasionally, or under some exceptional circumstances, or through love sometimes with another person. However, the often human situation is totally loveless separation.

However, my experience is that this deep feeling of love is to be found by interior concentration. We can tap into this via meditation.

It doesn't belong to anyone - it is the natural flood of creative power which we all stem from and can be with as people through endeavour.

Reading your posts is often to go back to before I ever encountered this whole scene. When I occasionally felt a sense of wholesomeness through maybe a temporary drug situation or some unexpected transcendental moments via music or a beloved and loving person.

However, it is apparent to me that this love really comes from inside us, and is released through such phenomena. The same love is perennially burgeoning inside use, as our natural source, behind the morass of normal everyday thought preoccupation.

The loving energy inside is there as a fact and force of nature, but very often unaccessible under standard circumstances. It is found in my opinion through meditation.

This is not the total story naturally.

Many people apparently find the same through other influences - through standard religious beliefs and paths, for example.

That feeling of transcendental love seems part of the natural human experience and capability.