Gok,

Well, that name doesn't sound too good.  Are you a boy or a girl?

I notice from your earlier posts that you are still into the music from our generation (the Flower Children generation, as some people like to say).

You seem willing to be nice and willing to talk, all at the same time.  That is an extra-ordinary stance for a premie coming here.  But it is a very welcomed stance.

So far you have made a point about whether or not Rawat claimed to be God.  I find that most people who comment on this issue sound like children.  It should be just too, too obvious to even comment about.  Of course, he isn't God.  That's impossible.  The question, of course, should be put another way, such as: Did he claim to be in permanent God-consciousness, and did he claim to be an Avatar?  And is an Avatar different from a Satguru and different from an incarnation of God and different from a Messiah figure?  

Those of us who have been involved as long as you and I have know the answers to these questions very well.

Another question remains, and that is: is he, in fact, a Satguru?  If not, then what?  Our answers will probably differ greatly on that one.

And another question that you have taken on is whether or not the inner experience that we have experienced is God or not.  This is another question that really needs to be asked a little more intelligently.  I will go to the other thread and respond to you there.

Anyway, hi.  Some people will probably treat you harshly.  And Sandy will probably want to know where you stand on the Jagdeo issue!