Response to Paddy, when good premies do bad things
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Posted by: Joe ® 10/20/2005, 19:56:08 Author Profile Edit Alert Moderators

Paddy: How is it that people who are not mean-spirited and deceptive will act that way for Rawat? My response:  Rotten people became premies and remained rotten, and good people became premies and for the most part remained good, but when it comes to the Lord, some might be capable of going against their true natures. I think that is the downside of religion and more specifically of faith, which is by nature unthinking and requires sacrifice of not only your time and attention, but even of your values, when it comes to the nub.  I know I did things as a premie that were unethical and would never do before or since becuase I thought I was supposed to just trust that it was what Rawat wanted. Or as the physicist Steven Weinberg put it more recently: "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Hmmmm.

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