The thing is , Nar....in Britain there was the added confusion of the hundreds of Asian premies at every program all dressed up to the nines in their best saris. Sometimes there was a sea of saris. In that very old Ally Pally film , showing darshan at the campsite at Cuffley I'm pretty certain there were European premies wearing Indian clothing. So you see , with the passage of time ,it's easy to confuse memories !

"They are lying for their lord because they believe he is the "truth" and wanted them to do so.  Why? For the same reasons so many people who saw it got uncomfortable (like Lexy just admitted) and blew that discomfort off.... Lexy, YOU knew it was a lie and you weren't even a direct participant in the telling of those lies...... c'mon,  do you guys honestly believe they didn't know they were lying when it was so obvious to YOU?"

We all lied Nar..YOU TOO no doubt...because we wanted to believe it so much....but it's more like self-deception than a deliberate , bare-faced lie. It's a living- in- Cloud- cuckoo- dream -land lie. 

I'm sorry I got my own memories so muddled on this thread...but again I wasn't deliberately lying. So many years , so many satsangs, so many premies,so many programs in so many cities, so many videos...and they all blur into so much sameness !