HI Cynthia,

I appreciate all your info about Trolls and past experience and also think that the info in Babalouji's post about that was great. But that was not what I was addressing in my post to him. I was only responding to the two paragraphs I quoted that were more about a percieved attitude not toward premies or trolls but toward others of us who are trying to express an opinion on forum 8. So, as I said, your post is full of good info but does not address what I was talking about, which is a preceived atmosphere of a 'culture' here that is not always welcoming And I repeat: I do not mean 'not welcoming' as regards premies or trolls. I have no problem with banning abusive posters an old recognized trolls.  I am referring to the fact that I personally don't always feel welcome when I express myself and my opinions, especially when those opinions do not agree with the 'old timers' as you call them. My personal opinion is that this subtle message can be damaging to those who are just beginning to take steps to being free from a cultural dogma or relgion or cult-speak. (boy I am going to get into trouble with this statement I am sure. Please don't send me to the principal's office!)