I didn't say that my father is perfect, but one of the best people me and many others have known.  There's a big difference, Jim.  We all make mistakes, and we all have personality traits that don't suit some people.  My father included.  But what didn't work was that a handful of people took one particular incident and attempted to smear his entire character and foul his lifetime journalistic work.  OK by them, they were free to do that of course, but it didn't work.  Why?  Because most people chose to look at what was good in him (much more than the bad) and also liked his fabulous work. 

Why are you talking about whether or not your father's perfect?  I didn't say anything at all about that.  Reread my post, please.  I was just making the point that if you're saying that he was falsely accused it's because you either know or believe that to be true (assuming you're sincere, of course).  I was just trying to get you to say which, both with respect to your father and Rawat.

Don't you see how it's much easier to dismiss "allegations" than simple facts and that premies obviously tend to leave the allegations against Rawat as just that -- uninvestigated -- so they don't have to deal with them?  Thus they always have the excuse that the allegations may not be true.  Well, why not investigate and find out?  What if they are true?  What then? 

After having taken a closer look at this forum, Jim, it has become very clear to me that even though I can see your points about certain incidents of Maharaji's life and how they have upset you to the point of becoming ex-premies, you will never ever agree with my view points because the fact is that they're basically similar to other premie responses I've read on this forum, so want to spare all of you but mainly myself the lengthy discussion leading nowhere in common one more time.

Fine, see you later ... but first, can we resolve at least this one issue below, please?

But since you've insisted on the issue of death:  Yes, I've heard Maharaji express in context something about the moment of death (I think about it on occasion myself) but only a handful of times.  However, this is not the gist of his message and I happen to go for the gist:  You can know the "life force" or "creative energy" or "God" or "Maker" (or however you choose to call this) while alive.  You can feel all the love and all the peace and all the joy that you wish to feel while alive

Let's not be any vaguer than we need to be, shall we?  Rawat said that it's not necessary to leave this world empty-handed.  What does that mean to you?