"....your truthfulness and self-honesty has stayed intact despite all those years of contact with a very dubious "Master" and his various organisations. It's made me re-think my attitude towards people who have remained premies since the early days. If any of them have retained the same kind of integrity I see in you, maybe there's hope for them yet."

There was a time ( was it early eighties ? ) when Guru Maharaji announced that it was.... " just you and  Guru Maharaji " ...this apparent "agya" seemed to be giving me permission to do my own thing or at least it was convenient for me to see it like that . So a lot of the time I was a lone premie ( apart from my eternal friend,as I saw it, Maharaji ).I went to community programmes, sometimes did some kind of "service" ( only things I more or less liked doing ). For a while I was community fundraiser in South London which meant visiting the premies in my area and collecting money when I was asked to by a higher-up co-ordinator. It was sometimes embarrassing asking really poor premies with young families to give their last couple of quid...but what better thing could you do with it than donate it to the Lord ! Anyhow I enjoyed visiting everyone and catching up on chat over a cup of tea or whatever ...so even such a seemingly horrid service was quite nice. I really liked most premies. Their longevity in the cult surely didn't make them lose all their integrity or be worse than anybody else...not in my experience.There were a few dubious ones..but that's so in any walk of life.

 I also used to organize jumble sales and sell donated stuff on a Bric a Brac stall. It was mostly quite good fun and we made loads of money to be sent off to help buy a house, or car or plane or two for the Master.

After the early eighties I lived abroad....still went to community programmes and to see Maharaji but really became a truly lone premie. Most of my friends were not premies and I usually kept my secret and they knew very little.In my own way I was still very "devoted" and a true believer. I must have been because I was invited to those special private fund-raising meetings several times !!

I can't really believe that my integrity or honesty is any better or worse than most premies and I don't think premies should be judged by the few that post on this forum and sometimes seem to use it for sport. I knew quite a few lovely premies whom I often think of and miss.

The premies who sometimes suddenly appear here and make fairly meaningless comments ( like the the Yadots ) are rather odd and don't seem like the premies I knew and know

"Thanks for saying what you did. And more power to your elbow! "

My  skinny elbows are pointy and dangerous so watch out Chris !!