I live in planet Earth, in our world, now.  It will help you understand our position better if you avoid accepting that WE DO KNOW YOUR world very well.

Your argument is so very poor.  Why are you doing this to yourself?

So, I contend that premies understand a lot about where ex-premies are coming from; the reverse cannot be said. Premies' understanding encompasses a dimension that is unknown to ex-premies, i.e., seeing those nasty doubts for what they really are.

Premies think we have "blinders" and that we are missing something.  How many times we need to say it is the other way around!  Premies view criticism toward Maharaji exactly LIKE HE WANTS YOUR MIND TO view it.  Just like you Jonx, exactly like you.  He planted IN MY BRAIN a way to justify sticking to him forever and if it wasn't because I doubted him, I would be still THINKING like you. 

How can you say this:

So, I contend that premies understand a lot about where ex-premies are coming from; the reverse cannot be said.

YOU NEVER STOPPED THINKING all the good stuff he wants you to believe about him.  You NEVER allowed yourself to consider that MAYBE he is a con man.  How can you be so dense as to make such an statement?!  "the reverse cannot be said..."  It is IDIOTIC.

You never left the cult, we did.  You NEVER stepped out of THAT thinking, we did. 

I think is silly to ask this, but please, tell me if you can in what way you view "doubts".

Premies' understanding encompasses a dimension that is unknown to ex-premies, i.e., seeing those nasty doubts for what they really are.

And please, use your own words to define YOUR experience toward doubts, not the WORD RAWAT HAS PLANTED IN YOUR BRAIN.

I wasn't going to answer your post.  I have been around this forum for a long time.  I am bored of silly discussions where the TRUTH don't matter, integrity is nothing, where language is mutilated to the point of forming stupid empty statements TO SUPPORT A PERSON LIKE HIM and you feel proud of it!! 

This may offend you or may look like I intend to:   I dislike TRYING to exchange THOUGHTS with premies because is not possible to do.  You, if you ever had them, have lost your thinking capacities.  You were for to long in a state of living life where words lost their meaning and reasoning is called "doubts".

I was one like you, reading for over a year the forums, EPO and exactly like you HAD THE SAME VIEWS and ways of rebuking what the ex-devotees were saying. 

I don't need Rawat to make me appreciate the beauty of a flower, or to enjoy music, or to remind me that love and peace matter, etc.  I left Rawat because I realised I had stopped being honest to my self and I wasn't happy belonging to "his world" anymore.  Maharaji, with his simplistic message, with his desire to keep my mind captive and ATTACHED TO HIM forever arrested my development as a human being.  He did not deliver what he promised, he did not.  The price I paid for "the bliss" was so extremely expensive.

I can see him because I stepped out of "his world" and because thanks to this forum, EPO, etc., I allowed myself to DOUBT him!  Maharaji says, "if you don't like it, walk...".  Perhaps his invitation to leave "the world of K" was one of "leave and do not dare to talk about me" But, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HIM even if you think it is not fair.