I ran into an ex premie the other day... and have kept in close contact with many of my long time friends that also got involved with m, including my best friend that I have mentioned in my earlier post about the top 10 reasons for getting involved with m, and ......

Your comment that >

" Most of the premies that I know who were in that situation are either still supporting m or are no longer interested and have moved on quietly without regrets. There is only a very small number of ex-premies who are carrying on a crusade to bring m down because he ruined your lives"

I have found that most of those I know... are SO EMBARRASED by their involvement or ... attempting to forget that they were duped, (like being jilted by a lover) or... deal with their loss differently than you or I, yet all have turned their backs on m. YET ALLL HAVE EXPRESSED REGRET THAT M SUCKERED THEM. Some say it was their own youthful indescretions, or say that they had fun for a while... (like I did.... HOLI FESTIVALS) or they say that it is just too painful to discuss.

Those few ex's that have shown courage to post here and express their anger and their warnings to potential targets of m are IMO doing others a service.

Remember, we have "REALIZED KNOWLEDGE" now, so satsang (speaking the truth), service ( helping others ) and meditation ( focusing on a point ) are all being carried out by those ex's in here that have "REALIZED KNOWLEDGE"!

High five you all!

I guess the thing that amazes me most about some of your previous posts is that you come in here as if you are the 'great defender' of the little guy, a "zena" warrior that is protecting the rights of those that might potentially get suckered into m's world. As if ... you really WANT them to enter that realm ...but without any warnings.

I for one, hope they all read the history of m and DLM/Elan vital, and the personal stories of ex's long before they get trapped by the cult.

If a person comes in here asking questions about m or k...due to being wise enough to ask about this 'thing' BEFORE they go through the "keys" or whatever it may be called later... they have ALWAYS gotten straight answers and no one I have seen has been verbally attacked or bullied for asking why ex's have a problem with m!

Ex's DO seem to have a problem with those that wish to minimize the damage getting involved with m can cause.