Re: Belief and concepts
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Cynthia ®

04/11/2005, 15:52:35
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One of the most clever things that Maharaji has ever done is use the word concept to define what premies think and believe.  No matter what we were thinking and believing about something, well, Rawat told us we were having our concepts about it, and then he'd correct us.  Having a concept to a premie is like a cardinal sin, so, he was going to 'help us all out' (out of the goodness of his heart -- right!) and blow all of our minds, and our concepts (beliefs) along with them.  As a result, Rawat has sown more confusion and heartbreak than anyone I ever have known.

So, Prem Rawat takes peoples' minds and twists up their thought process into knots, gets them to believe one thing and then takes it away.  He does this about Knowledge and the facts it's a belief system.  But, a perfect example of this, Jonx, is his lying about what he eats.  The issue about what Prem Rawat eats isn't that he eats meat (who cares?) it's that he has lied about it and allowed premies to have a belief about him (that he lived a certain way) which even extends to this day.

Over the years, he changed. And so did I. Beliefs were constantly challenged, and dropped. I remember the biggest trauma for me was seeing the food in his jet during one of his visits. A platter of meat sandwiches were put on the plane prior to his departure. Seems small today but that had me in turmoil for months afterward. But I remember when I got over it; there was a sense of liberation. “Freed up to eat whatever I wanted.” Such freedoms made the experience of Knowledge simpler. Simpler, because it wasn’t dependant on any of that stuff… only on the inner pursuit

 

This is a good example of what I just said and bears it out, too.  It it also a good reason why Prem Rawat is so poisonous to people and their minds.  I think it's terribly sad that it took you months to work out in your mind that Prem Rawat eats meat on a sandwich after which you felt: "freed up to eat whatever I wanted"  Think about it, Jonx.  Do you really think it's normal to experience the turmoil you did over what your teacher has on his lunch plate?  You've been groomed to be put through those those mental kind of paces by Prem Rawat.

 

You were in a position to be on his jet and see him there, so instead of waiting the months it took you to get over the meat you saw,  if Rawat cared about you and your experience so much, don't you think for one minute he's obligated to relieve you of that turmoil, over his lunch?  And you call that a teacher who cares about someone?   That's not normal human behavior, Jonx -- not on his part and definitely not on your part as a someone's student.  Besides, you've always been free to eat whatever you want and it was Prem Rawat who prevented that, too. 






Modified by Cynthia at Mon, Apr 11, 2005, 15:59:28

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