Hi John,

              Hope you find this Forum useful - however that may be. I've got two questions .

>I'm still not 100% sure why I'm writing all this.<

I'll leave the why to you - but don't you think that it is 'interesting' that to have this discussion, you have to come to an ex premie site ? Why are premies so inhibited as to be unable to openly discuss these issues on a premie forum ?

>The organisation has ALWAYS been run by idiots!< 

Why is that so ? After 35 years why are the organisations - there are many of them, separately managed in different countries - so utterly crap ? Either Rawat's followers are uniquely stupid or there is something which inhibits good management in Rawat's organisations.

For the record I don't agree that it's always been run by idiots - neither Mishler nor Dettmers were idiots - indeed Dettmers almost certainly saved the US DLM from terminal collapse. In the UK Peter Potter and Glen Whitacker were intellegent people yet theit influence could never overcome the endemic flaws of DLM/EV.

Nik