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Re: Jesus was a deluded nut who did far more harm than good -- Jim Top of thread Forum
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01/14/2005, 18:26:43
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Yes, yes, let's talk about Jesus.  Personally, I think the guy was a total idiot.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Imagine what kind of delusional state one would have to be in to think they were God, or the "son" of God or anything but a simple, regular human being?  Having conversations with God, conversations with the Devil -- yeah, right, Jesus.

Guess you had to be there, Jimmy boy.

If he were alive today and thought any of that stuff he'd be absolutely disfunctional, not to mention dangerous,

The truth is dangerous in a world ruled by liars and thieves.

And talk about misleading people!  To begin with, by posing as God, or the Son of God, or whatever the hell he thought he was in his garbled grandiose daydream, he set up an entire people, his people, for serious persecution for eons just because they didn't buy into his stupidity.  And for those who did, it wasn't a whole lot better.  Jesus started a cult that was more oppresive than we can imagine if we just judge his legacy by the weakened Christian cult we're familiar with around us.  But no thanks to him for any freedoms fought and won in the recent history of modern civilization.  No thanks at all.  Jesus encouraged faith over reason and it's taken us as a society two millenia to begin to realize what a dead-end mind fuck (Oh, did I say that?) that is and to get up the courage to call his bluff.

Jesus was OK with the scientific method, case in point, Thomas the Doubter.  When he questioned Jesus after the crucifixion and seeing him still alive, I think you know what happened.  Tom said he'd believe it when he could stick his hand into JC's wounds, and JC said go for it.  He did not hassle Tom into believing without testing the truth by touching it with his own hand.

Rawat, Jesus, as far as I'm concerned they both suck big time.  God forbid that this newer cult gets legs the way the older one did.  But if it does who's to say that Rawat's image won't be cleaned up and polished just like the first guy's?  Scandals disappear or morphed into miracles, personality foibles twisted and inverted or just plain forgotten?  There'll always be true believers, people who just like to believe in bulls**t because it's fun to believe, who'll eat it up.  At that point, given a choice, if I were alive I might even prefer the Rawat myth to the Jesus one.  Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

What-EVER, Jim.  Sounds like you have a very lightweight understanding of Jesus but you come on like an authority.  I think if you researched some apocryphal writings and did a little digging, I think you would really like and respect Jesus the person and you have more in common with him that you think.  And I don't think you'd blame him for all the stuff done in his name any more than you would blame the lawmakers for the crappy lawyers who give you and your work a bad name.







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