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eDrek ®

01/03/2021, 16:20:20
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Washington Post: In call, Trump demands Georgia officials 'find' votes to tilt election



Here's some of the juicy quotes:

President Donald Trump pushed Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" votes to overturn the election results after his loss to President-elect Biden, according to an audio recording of a phone call obtained by The Washington Post.

In excerpts of the stunning one-hour phone call Saturday, Trump lambasted his fellow Republican for refusing to falsely say that he won the election in Georgia and repeatedly touted baseless claims of election fraud.

"The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry. And there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you've recalculated," Trump said in one excerpt of the call. Raffensperger responded, "Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong."

In another excerpt, Trump said, "So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."


"You should want to have an accurate election. And you're a Republican," Trump said at one point.

"We believe that we do have an accurate election," Raffensperger said in response, to which Trump replied, "No, no you don't. Not even close. You're off by hundreds of thousands of votes."






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lesley ®

01/03/2021, 18:33:41
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the fascinating thing is that so many people will still support him even if they read a word for word transcript of that call, it won't change their mind.

And there are still a whole big bunch of old timer premies.  After all this time?  How can they be so unreasonable!  

On a brave day I can just about cast an eye back over the decades I spent in my marriage.  I always believed him over me.  

maybe it is as simple as the tone of voice, idk, but these people who mess with the truth expect to be believed, and largely they are.






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eDrek ®

01/04/2021, 16:12:57
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Yep, us humans seem to be able to swallow any kind of tale and believe with great certainty that it is true. I certainly understand that one.

I just have to say, however, that these Republicans sure are going out of their way ignoring truth and accepting false conspiracies.






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01/04/2021, 17:45:30
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I remember my parents generation talking a lot about compartmentalising - men were supposed to do it all the time but I think we all do it - all the 4 sexes - I remember when I exited the cult I had this sense that my brain was full of ideas which needed to be put in the same compartment and tested because I was believing mutually exclusive things.

and the reason it was like that was because of core beliefs I had been fed like don't doubt which turned my mind from questioning but now I did and when I had done all that I became aware I still had areas that were spongy.  They cleared up 15 years later when I realised my marital circumstance.

which leads me to believe that there is something different about lies to uncertainties - I don't need to compartmentalise this idea I get when I look at the moon that there's a rabbit on it which is clearly silly, or the idea that might be a snake in the rocks which potentially was true though it turned out to be a lizard - these wrong ideas are congruent with my ability to assess reality in a way that lies are not.  No some part of me that I'm not conscious of must be dumping some of the lies and putting some of them into compartments and though they get sorted left to my own devices, while I remain in the purview of the liar I don't question and I end up down the road thinking how could I have believed that, or why didn't I put two and two together.  

I'm pretty certain the way Trump is able to exploit this to such a degree is also instinctive behaviour rather than conscious knowledge.








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01/05/2021, 11:48:10
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I'm pretty certain the way Trump is able to exploit
this to such a degree is also instinctive behaviour rather than
conscious knowledge.


Lesley, well put. I agree completely.






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01/06/2021, 10:00:38
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Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Se TRUMP LOST. LOEFFLER LOST. PERDUE LOST. MITCH LOST. AND I'M JUST HERE LAUGHING MY OSSOFF. LOL!!!!!'






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01/06/2021, 10:31:54
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I sure hope the Ossoff small lead sticks.

It would be so nice to get rid of Mitch and his obstructionism.






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