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Convo about the Replubic and popular vs. Electoral vote
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eDrek ®

10/30/2020, 16:09:29
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nevermind





Modified by eDrek at Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 18:53:06

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Not nevermind!
Re: Convo about the Replubic and popular vs. Electoral vote -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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karenL ®

10/31/2020, 09:40:29
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It just took me a minute to reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbhFF91PwcM

Thom Hartmann interviews Rep Jamie Raskin, MD. about issues and solutions. Hartmann talks about work arounds states can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cZG9JknGHU








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Re: Not nevermind!
Re: Not nevermind! -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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eDrek ®

10/31/2020, 10:07:22
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I need to re-hydrate that post after I edit out some family stuff that the post revolved around.






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Cleaned up and reposted, but who cares?
Re: Re: Not nevermind! -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/31/2020, 12:15:37
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I told my story of woe where as a child they drum the Pledge of Allegiance into your head. I thought it was about 'witches' in the part that goes:

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Ok, I wasn't the smartest 2nd grader.

But, really the Trojan Horse within the Pledge of Allegiance is the part of "and to the Republic".

Ok, I really didn't know what a Republic was in the 2nd grade. Color me stupid.

But, I know what a Republic is and it's where the popular vote just doesn't matter and we're controlled by 'battleground states' and 'swing states' and according to a friend of mine the Electoral College protects the states that are not heavily populated. And that person said that the Electoral College will overrule the popular vote in order to avoid having the 'wrong' person as President. Ah, the wisdom of the Electoral College!

Hello! Hillary Clinton. Yes, she would have been a much worse President than Donald Trump, but the Electoral College saved us. Clearly, the Electoral College made a failsafe decision by putting Trump into the Presidency.

And then my friend starts going off about the 'Founding Fathers' and I could tell that he/she was almost tearing up in a patriarchal emotional overflow. Ok, this relative is a male. Hail, all Founding Fathers. They knew what was best for us and we should never challenge their inherent wisdom that included slavery and prevented women and others from voting. I just heard from Kamala Harris that black women have only been allowed to vote since 1965.

And the interesting thing is me and my friend started off this conversation where my friend made the statement that in a few days we'll be able to tell Trump that he's fired. So, my friend is, thankfully, smart enough to know that Trump is a piece of shit, but that Hillary Clinton would have been a much worse President.

Of course, my friend is a life long Republican male, so someone like Hillary Clinton would be nothing but bad news and on and on.

Anyway, my friend wisely changed the subject because my friend doesn't like it when I stand my ground and start sounding like I know what I'm talking about.

But, seriously, as if this hasn't been serious, as an American  (1) I'm disappointed and (2) I'm very much afraid that Donald Trump could win another term due to the Electoral College.

It's funny, the US is all about helping monitor elections in other countries to help ensure that the elections are fair and free, but what the hell do we have here at home? It's unfair and it's not free. And what Trump and the Republicans are doing to suppress the vote is cheap and cheesy dictator stuff right here at home.






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Re: Cleaned up and reposted, but who cares?
Re: Cleaned up and reposted, but who cares? -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/31/2020, 14:24:57
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From what I hear the early voting and the opinion polls show a very big turnout to vote and not for Trump.  Apparently even George W Bush is publicly recommending a vote for Biden?

I hope this is the case, I think it will help heal the American spirit if it becomes clear people have joined forces to vote him out, whether it is successful or not.  

The electoral college is kind of a weird thing isn't it.  I wonder if it wasn't started by someone as a fallback way of retaining power should the vote go against him!






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Unfortunately, I fear that Trump will win the election or steal it
Re: Re: Cleaned up and reposted, but who cares? -- lesley Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/31/2020, 15:46:47
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The Electoral College throws common sense reality into the trash can and anything can happen as it did with Bush v. Gore and Clinton v. Trump.

Being a Republic and not a full Democracy sucks!






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Re: Unfortunately, I fear that Trump will win the election or steal it
Re: Unfortunately, I fear that Trump will win the election or steal it -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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lesley ®

10/31/2020, 17:43:24
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been reading about the electoral college on Wikipedia.  goodness.  I will need a nap to recover.

you poor things!






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Fear it will be stolen.
Re: Unfortunately, I fear that Trump will win the election or steal it -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/31/2020, 20:08:04
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-republicans-ask-judge-to-throw-out-100000-cast-ballots_n_5f9db73dc5b658b27c3afc9a


Texas Republicans Ask State’s Supreme Court To Throw Out 100,000 Cast Ballots

"A lawsuit filed earlier this week by two GOP candidates and a Republican member of the Texas House asked the Texas Supreme Court to throw out drive-thru ballots, arguing such voting was illegal. The case is currently being handled by the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas in Houston."

This is happening all over the country.







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Re: Fear it will be stolen.
Re: Fear it will be stolen. -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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eDrek ®

10/31/2020, 23:36:58
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Probably just the beginning of BS legal challenges.

Watch for voter intimidation on Tuesday.






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Re: Fear it will be stolen.
Re: Fear it will be stolen. -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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11/01/2020, 13:48:58
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TEXAS 2020 ELECTIONS

Texas Supreme Court rejects Republican-led effort to throw out nearly 127,000 Harris County votes 

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/01/texas-drive-thru-votes-harris-county/?utm_campaign=trib-social-buttons&fbclid=IwAR3HQvNnsanPA2zq987zIh8d2hZPz9rWtJ1n9gfTlC5OY0Nv7nADK_VLkP4

A handful of GOP activists and candidates had asked the state's highest civil court to rule Harris County's drive-thru voting locations illegal, and invalidate votes that have already been cast. The challenge has also been filed in federal court.








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Yay!
Re: Re: Fear it will be stolen. -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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eDrek ®

11/01/2020, 14:50:05
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Hopefully, it won't get appealed to SCOTUS.

The Republicans will stop at nothing when it comes to saving their asses.






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When Will We Know The 2020 Election Results? Here Are The States To Watch.
Re: Convo about the Replubic and popular vs. Electoral vote -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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11/01/2020, 14:05:54
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When Will We Know The 2020 Election Results? Here Are The States To Watch.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/electoral-college-vote-counting-presidential-election_n_5f9c26ecc5b6df1b74609c8e?fbclid=IwAR2HFTnMB8Dpfpe2rOqj60b2z-N2Z3rpLeI9xrtWLSaaai_lZsjF354famk

Breakdown state by state as to what time or what day the results will be known. 







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