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karenL ®

10/30/2020, 11:01:22
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First: New strain sweeps through Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.in/science/news/a-mutated-strain-of-covid-19-causes-most-new-infections-in-europe-and-was-spread-around-the-continent-by-tourists-scientists-say/articleshow/78931384.cms

A mutated coronavirus strain causes most new COVID-19 infections in Europe and was spread within the continent by tourists, scientists say

Second : 

Brain Scans Show a Whole Spectrum of COVID-19 Abnormalities We Can't Fully Explain

https://www.sciencealert.com/how-covid-disturbs-brain-waves









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Republicans don't want Americans wearing masks, because they want Americans to catch COVID-19
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karenL ®

10/30/2020, 12:31:34
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/29/1990646/-The-war-on-masks-is-all-about-feeding-the-delusion-of-herd-immunity?fbclid=IwAR0jERO57DG9NtthEbplvsrjZxc7q-J_VngItOUDYA9YHUmwC6o3R5MFKKs


(writing in Wall Street Journal)  internist Joseph Ladapo says," begins his anti-mask manifesto by looking at why health officials began insisting that wearing masks was important. He’s correct in saying that the discovery of asymptomatic transmission was a major factor. He’s hugely incorrect in saying this is “a weak rationale” for masks. He’s also hugely deceptive in citing as proof a study that looked at how face masks and other factors worked against flu, and representing it as a general study on a “respiratory virus.” It’s not." 
"This is a medical doctor attacking not just the entire basis of human trials, but delivering a backhand to the entire scientific process. The reason you look at results of specific tests is exactly because they can tell you something about the general experience. If they cannot, someone should call the vaccine manufacturers and tell them to stop the trials.

But all of this is only leading up to the main theme, to the point where Ladapo pulls off his own masks and gets down to what he’s really selling.

… mask mandates have the unintended consequence of delaying public acceptance of the unavoidable truth. In countries with active community transmission and no herd immunity, nothing short of inhumane lockdowns can stop the spread of Covid-19, so the most sensible and sustainable path forward is to learn to live with the virus."







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It's pure EVIL!
Re: Republicans don't want Americans wearing masks, because they want Americans to catch COVID-19 -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/30/2020, 15:49:08
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If the US goes for 'herd mentality' the side effect is that millions could die.

Is that who we are as a country?

I'm dusting off my passport. I've got a friend with a tree orchard in France who needs more holes dug into the ground.






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10/30/2020, 16:03:28
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You'll have to wait. France is just starting a month long lockdown. They won't let you in. I'd suggest you could wait here, but it's the same as France, but without the lockdown. The top medics are saying the situation here is much worse than the government's worse case scenario. Which I'm guessing they don't have a plan for. My son became a doctor last week, and he's been posted straight to a respiratory ward. He says to us, don't get it now. The hospitals are getting too full... he's looking after a very sick 40 year old... And I'm hearing it's all Bill Gate's fault, and the UN, and 5g. Not from my son. 

I'm glad I brought my tractor back with me! There'll be food.






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Re: It's pure EVIL!
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10/30/2020, 16:21:02
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Wow, your son is a hero! And his warning about not getting the virus now is critical and vital.

It's heating up here in the US as you probably know. I've taken to being much more careful when I go shopping or anywhere that I deem to be risky. I have some pretty good masks at $1 each that aren't N95, but do filter down to 3 microns, which should be enough. I do my shopping at a few stores and when I get home the mask goes in the trash.

If I go shopping once per week I'll need at least 52 masks. I've ordered 30 more from Amazon and they will arrive in that latter part of November.

I would urge great caution regarding masks as the virus surges. Reusable ones need to be washed as they say daily. Single use ones need to be thrown into the garbage.

And hand washing and all that, too.

This pandemic is not over yet and we're not rounding the corner as Donald Trump says we are.

Let's just hope that after either surviving a bout with the virus or getting the vaccine protects us for at least one year????






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But at least the government of France and the UK are not going herd immunity
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10/30/2020, 16:24:19
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Right?

Only Donald Trump and his Dr. Atlas, a radiologist, would push that plan.






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Re: But at least the government of France and the UK are not going herd immunity
Re: But at least the government of France and the UK are not going herd immunity -- eDrek Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/30/2020, 17:53:58
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The reason they're pushing it so hard is economics. Profits over people. Rep Ro Khana was on Thom Hartmann the other day, and he said the main reason the House wouldn't agree to the Senate bill to help people hurt by COVID was NOT the $$$ amount, but a poison pill that would protect employers from law suits by employees that get sick! Even if it is the employer's fault!

EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL. 
Evil on steroids.

REMEMBER: KARMA HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!






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Re: But at least the government of France and the UK are not going herd immunity
Re: Re: But at least the government of France and the UK are not going herd immunity -- karenL Top of thread Post Reply Forum
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10/31/2020, 00:12:31
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If there was such a thing as karma (I see no evidence for it), there'd need to be an expiration date. I have had promises of payment which took me a while to realise were useless, as there was no specified date for payment...






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ah. good point..
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10/31/2020, 04:53:30
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I guess that's why Karma's such a bitch.






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10/30/2020, 19:17:13
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goodness.  straight off to the respiratory ward, that must feel a bit like seeing your son go off to war.  wishing you all the best.








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10/31/2020, 00:09:01
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He's happy about it. Says he is working with a great team. Has really good protection - and most of the medics didn't get the disease in the Spring. And it's what he chose to do medicine for. He actually made enough money from his apps while he was studying that he could retire already. So it's amazing to me to see him walk into the covid wards - pure altruism it seems.






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wow
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10/31/2020, 02:04:07
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really pleased to hear he is getting good protection.  and yes I bet he is working with a great team.  That is quite something to be putting himself forward for the covid wards when he doesn't need to.






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10/31/2020, 02:25:45
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I guess none of the medics are doing it for the money.






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10/31/2020, 04:50:09
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yes I guess so, but still, quite a number of doctors ducked for cover round here in the early days.  Telephone advice only.

It must take courage to face those wards.  and I wish him the best.  

we are very lucky here with still no cases locally.






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