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eDrek ®

08/14/2020, 18:24:51
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Trump Refuses To Address QAnon, Praises Conspiracy-Supporting Republican Again



Hey, if anybody asks where I live please tell them that I moved out of state again and you haven't heard from me in months and months. Maybe Alaska or South America...

(They're coming for you if you've ever said anything bad about Mister Trump.)


Here's some of the juicy quotes:

The baseless and constantly evolving theory holds that a mysterious, high-ranking government official known as “Q” has, for years, sprinkled cryptic clues all over the internet about a coming “Storm” of arrests ― and perhaps executions ― of Trump’s antagonists.

Twitter banned thousands of QAnon-linked accounts in July, noting the theory’s “potential to lead to offline harm.”







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08/15/2020, 09:04:51
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Hi there,

Hope you're well.  It's been a long time since I've posted here so I hope folks here are okay with me jumping in again.  I have been reading occasionally.

I've been thinking a lot about QAnon and I believe it's a full blown cult.  And it is very scary to me.
 
This article is interesting, from The Week.







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08/15/2020, 09:25:26
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QAnon seems as ludicrous as David Icke's assertion that the UK royal family and others are alien reptiles in disguise (and he doesn't mean just scaly or venomous - he means actual reptiles). Kind of deep state, but with aliens.

I've seen him interviewed, and what surprised me was the lack of laughter. No matter how absurd Icke got, the interviewer just followed up with more questions.

I was pleased to see a reporter finally question Trump about his lies. The man's a lying liar, and yet the press keep on showing up, throwing him softballs and taking notes. Don't they have any dignity? If he keeps lying, just walk out. What's the point of keeping on listening? 

People seem surprisingly resistant to calling out bullshit when they see it. We tiptoe around so as not to cause offence to someone's cherished beliefs, or to avoid showing disrespect to the office held by the bullshitter-in-chief. Maybe we just pander too much, or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky.






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08/15/2020, 09:35:14
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13, you said:

or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky

I don't think there should a 'maybe' in the statement.

Make sure you eat enough coconut seeds. They help with crankiness.







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08/15/2020, 11:51:21
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Hi,

QAnon is ludicrous but so many things are crazy and ludicrous in the U.S. now.  Our president is willfully and outwardly sabotaging our postal system in order to slow down mail so absentee ballots (the same as mail-in ballots but he doesn't seem to comprehend there is no difference) and bragging about it.

QAnon is a pro-Trump re-election cult that lies and makes belief systems out of them.  

I've definitely become more cranky as I've gotten older.  I do try to be kind to people, though. 







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08/15/2020, 09:41:22
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Cynthia,

It's really good to hear from you! I hope that all is going well with you.

I'm doing well. Just laying low and trying to be virus-safe. These are interesting times for sure!

The article you posted had this:

QAnon has deliberately exploited online activism against child abuse for
purposes of self-promotion, an approach at once tactically clever and
ethically repulsive. Q followers co-opted the #SaveTheChildren hashtag,
which began as a fundraiser for Save the Children, a century-old charity with no connection to Q.

I was hoping that QAnon would simply and quietly fade away, but it doesn't look that way. Interesting how they are co-opting child welfare groups to suck the unsuspecting in and then start slipping them the kool-aid. Yeah, it's a cult and we know how they work with crazy flip-flops and baseless and fact free theories and claims.






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08/15/2020, 11:58:04
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Hi eDrek,

I hope you are doing well, too.  I've been keeping my distance to avoid getting the virus. 

I think the purpose of QAnon's exploitation of activism against child abuse, is so they get credibility in that arena so they can accuse anyone they want (political opponents of Trump) of child sex child trafficking.  That's without any proof of their accusations.

They are pond scum to the max.  I want to keep track of them in a peripheral way because I can't stand what they are doing. 








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6 Reasons so Many Spiritual People Have Been Fooled by Qanon
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08/15/2020, 10:15:30
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Hi Cynthia, good to see you! Hope you are well <3 

6 Reasons so Many Spiritual People Have Been Fooled by Qanon


JUCY QUOTE

In recent weeks, I've had various dialogues through social media with acquaintances or friends in the spiritual scene who have fallen for what I consider an outrageous propaganda campaign by and for the far-right, QAnon.

I've tried my best to lead these conversations with respect and the modesty to learn about new things. From what I've seen is that people who flirt with or buy into the QAnon narratives aren't stupid or unaware. I recognize many of them as intelligent and open-minded. That's what makes the phenomenon all the more alarming. In my view, QAnon highlights something is deeply rotten in the spiritual / New Age scene that goes way beyond individuals. It concerns the blind spots collectively held and passed on this subculture.







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08/15/2020, 12:01:41
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Hi Karen,

Thanks for the welcome!  I'll read the article later -- it's so beautiful out today and I finally finished my Saturday chores.

The article sounds very interesting.












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08/15/2020, 21:19:56
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yes interesting article to read.  I was agreeing with him all down the line and get to the conclusion - that we need a system of governance that is spiritual as well as secular - and all of a sudden I am remembering how the previous generation said we were lucky to have been able to separate religion from government and keep it like that as otherwise we would be more vulnerable to being enslaved.  (not that I don't still agree with the writer, it's just that as a species we clearly have some major problems that overbear any system of government you want to devise)

I hadn't heard of q anon before but I am guessing it is the thing that is making these people I know have this weird mix of a constant line of right-wing conspiracy theory ideas popping up, always changing, moving with the times, no facts needed, and sitting oddly with the left-leaning spiritual and environmental ideas - how do you mix the paranoia and bliss? - on the one hand anxiety levels are ramped up and vindicated and then on the other hand it's to have trust in the universe.








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08/15/2020, 20:42:50
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I don't really understand how all this social media stuff works & have never had a facebook account even, but I see parallels with the period of the English Civil War when cheap printing coincided with all kinds of lunatic views & enabled their spread throughout the population.

Some politicians tried to use this to their own advantage with varying degrees of success, but in the end rough estimates are that 4% of the population of England ended up dead. In Wales it was 7%, Scotland 12%, & Ireland a totally unknowable number, but certainly in excess of 35%.

Scary indeed.

"An analysis preserved in the Thomason collection in the British Museum
shows that although only twenty-two pamphlets were published in 1640,
more than 1,000 were issued in each of the succeeding four years. The
record number of 1,966 appeared in 1642" (Seibert 180). The voices that
found their way onto the walls of alehouses and into the hands of the
King himself were febrile, alarming, oftentimes toxic. Pamphleteers
for the most part had no economic incentive to publish their work; they
were driven, rather, by an earnest commitment to intellectual
speculation, to the welfare of the state, and to the piquant power of
the printed text.

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08/15/2020, 21:30:37
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wow - what a sentence!

yes, from pamphlets to tv and radio and now it's facebook and algorithms.  oh and robots.






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"QAnon Is the Future of the Republican Party" THE NATION MAG.
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08/17/2020, 11:30:21
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QAnon Is the Future of the Republican Party


JUCY QUOTES

A few Republicans, to their credit, have spoken out against Greene and QAnon—but they are all much lower profile than Trump. On the same day as Trump’s warm words for Greene, Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger of Illinois tweeted, “Qanon is a fabrication” adding there was “no place in Congress for these conspiracies.” Another Republican, Virginia congressman Denver Riggleman tweeted, “QAnon is the mental gonorrhea of conspiracy theories. It’s disgusting and you want to get rid of it as fast as possible.”

But if QAnon is gonorrhea, more and more Republicans are getting infected, and party leaders are doing nothing to stop the spread. Kinzinger and Riggleman are lonely voices in their own party. As CNN reports, “Top Republicans, including President Donald Trump and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, are embracing their party’s nominee for a House seat in Georgia, despite her history of racist and anti-Semitic remarks and promotion of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory.” Other Georgia Republicans, notably Senator Kelly Loeffler and congressman Doug Collins, have joined in welcoming Greene’s primary victory.









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