Re: Celebrating the pandemic
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Here's a second article you've linked to which contains many valid points, and then goes on to address the problem of the left, or even the Left - some apparently homogeneous group of cowards and anti-capitalists - and having set up this straw group, goes on to blame them for every uninformed or ill-considered message about the disaster.

I know of no-one celebrating this. My son who should qualify as a doctor in a year comes closest - he says that's great timing as there'll be no sick people left by the time he qualifies, but that 's just his black humour shining through. But we all know people having to work in hospitals and care homes with insufficient protective gear. I have friends and neighbours whose jobs and businesses have failed, and it's no fault of their own, pensions disappearing, that sort if thing. One friend was running a pub down the road - he'd built it up over the years till he won UK wide 'Pub of the Year' a couple of years ago, and it was a great place - a thatched building that has been a pub for 300 years, great gardens, good food, great atmosphere - a place I'd naturally use to meet friends. It's stopped, and is unlikely to get going again, ever, like it was.

There are many more examples I could give.  Our own AirBnB has stopped - when will that start again? But that's small stuff - someone I'm very close to can't get tested for possible cancer as screening has stopped for the time being.

And even that's small stuff, because what it is going to do to the 'third world' is likely a tragedy we can't do anything about but watch unfold. Lockdown in India was particularly absurd, when huge numbers of people are so poor, they live each day from that day's earnings. When the work stopped they had nothing, and many walked great distances to get to their home towns, no doubt some taking the disease with them.

Clearly, lockdown in some places is impractical. Here and in the US, it was just brought in too late. S Korea has shown how it should have been done. But it's too late now. The idiot Trump dismissing it as just another flu that won't really affect America, and the fool Boris, going round shaking hands with everyone including corona virus patients on the very day his advisers said we need to stop that. They've served their countries really badly. Anyway, the virus is now at large and won't go back in the bottle. To be properly effective now that it has become so prevalent will take much longer than the short sharp shock it would have been if we'd acted quickly like S Korea. I very much doubt that the US and UK governments will be able to maintain lockdown for as long as needed to stop the spread, the US especially, obviously.

So what would you suggest? - undo the lockdown and let everyone go about their business? They're not going to be flocking to the airports, the cinemas, the bars and many other places while the disease is still around. Whatever you do now, the economy is still screwed. And if people don't stay apart, the disease will spread more.

Nah, I don't know anyone celebrating this, and I imagine most people I know you'd consider rather left wing. There's not even the schadenfreude that you might imagine could be squeezed out of this.

Yes, of course I hope we can learn something from this when it's finally resolved and I really hope we don't go back to how it was because that simply wasn't sustainable. And whether you like it or not, capitalism has already changed. The UK government have taken back the railways, and are directly paying a large chunk of the population. All those years of austerity wiped out in a flash, and the ensuing debt won't be paid off by reverting to how things were before.

I don't understand how you can ignore the dull persistently arrogant chump you support in the US after the obvious mishandling of the whole thing, and then blame the 'Left', a spurious group of imagined reprobates you and the pundits you read have invented to take the flak. Get real.






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