Andries,

                I agree with you about GOK (at least about most of his posts) unfortunately GOK is following a familiar pattern and long time readers here are unsurprisingly suspicious about who GOK is and what his/her agenda is. Ex Rawatites will inevitably feel angry when faced with someone so wedded to the 'avoidance' that Rawat's revisionism demands - GOK may be honestly expressing what she/he believes (GOK would say experiences) but for Exs so much of GOK's contention is a downright lie. That said I don't think Paddy's post is within the spirit of the Forum guidelines - though of course Paddy may be wholly accurate in his analysis.

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