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deception as a means to and end is Ok for Christianity too, apparently ... | |||
Re: Re: "lying by omission" -- Jethro | Top of thread | Forum |
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sorry for the over-kill, as it were, but here goes: Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556), the tireless zealot for papal authority – he was the founder of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits) – even wrote: "We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides." The Reformation may have swept away some abuses perpetrated by the priesthood but lying was not one of them. Martin Luther, in private correspondence, argued: "What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church ... a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."
(Cited by his secretary, in a letter in Max Lenz, ed., Briefwechsel Landgraf Phillips des Grossmüthigen von Hessen mit Bucer, vol. I.)
The Hebrew original says:
Honestly translated, the verse reads:
Justin ‘Martyr’, a pagan Greek from Palestine, fled to Ephesus at the time of Bar Kochbar’s revolt (132 -135 AD). He joined the growing Christian community and found himself competing with the priests of Artemis, an eternally virgin goddess. Justin successfully overcame the sentiments of established Christians and had Mary, mother of Jesus, declared a virgin, citing his Greek copy of Isaiah as 'evidence' of scriptural prescience. The Greek priest who then forged the 'Gospel according to St. Matthew' went one stage further, taking the word 'harah' – in Hebrew a past or perfect tense – and switched it into a future tense to arrive at: 'Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel.'
All this to arrive at the monstrous fiction that ancient scripture foretold of the arrival of an infant actually called Jesus! Was Saint Paul an unabashed liar? From this verse in Romans it would appear so: "For if the truth of God hath more abounded by my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?" (St. Paul, Romans 3.7) However, in context, Paul is actually censuring other Christians who say "Let us do evil, that good may come" (that is, from God's judgement). But like Paul we can "take the passage captive" to make a point. Related link: http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/lying.htm Modified by cq at Wed, Nov 03, 2004, 15:15:45 |
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