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Re: So, I have some questions -- premie_spouse Top of thread Forum
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09/22/2005, 19:03:54
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A lot of your posts I can so relate to because I was in a similar situation, different in that I was a premie in a premie marriage, where I was experiencing a lot of drips and gradually moving away, and getting as much response from my partner as I suspect you are from yours.

And I have refrained from commenting very often because my experience was so dark.

I should also explain that I loved her at a scarily deep level, and that was mutual.

She never entertained, would never allow one thought, one possibility even to enter her head, to question on any level whatsoever the perfectness of maharaji.

Those drips cannot be encouraged by anyone else I suspect, not in any way that would be visible to anyone else however close they were. Any deeply engrained premie who isn't already faltering, will react with nothing but defence barriers and a retreat into meditation and the belief system when question marks are brought up about k and rawat. I suspect they would do the same even if they were starting to falter.

For myself I felt, in the end, that there were only two options,
(1) However much I loved, and however much it would devastate me to do so, I would have to force the issue
or
(2)I would have to accept that her denial was likely to go on forever, til death, and accept her as she was. Maharaji and all.

In the end, however much I tried to deny it to myself, there was only one option.
The second one was just too life denying to be acceptable, however much I loved her.

At some point, if you aren't already, you've got to talk to him about this whole issue, and about the feelings you are going through, while being as non-threatening as possible, and as non-demanding as possible. That puts a huge onus on you in terms of taking emotional responsibility for the relationship, but when you're dealing with a premie in defence mode it's no different as far as I have seen from dealing with an adolescent on some level.

Now I'm no counsellor, so I might be talking complete bollox, but that was the journey I made, and what I believe to be true.

I should add, that although she gained sustenance from her beliefs and experience of meditation right up to her death(she was a lot older than me), she was also terrified and unprepared and very alone in the period before her death, and couldn't come to terms with a lot of stuff, and was completely unable to bridge the gap to share her emotional vulnerability at the time she needed to the most. Heartbreaking really.

On a slightly lighter level, it might be worth suggesting couples counselling to him, you can always drop in the line that even maharaji was up for counselling when he and marilyn hit real problems.
The fact, surprize, surprize, that he chickened out of going, you don't have to mention.

I'm sorry this was so dark, and I hope against hope that you two make it through.

In terms of when I was gung-ho, not a chance that anything that came from anyone else would create anything but defence barriers and a retreat into meditation, as happened on numerous occasions.

On a more positive note, even when I was pulling away there was no hint I suspect to others, I'm not sure as much because I wasn't even sure what was going on myself.
How could I, when emotions were given nowhere near the priority, and certainly not the equal of, the spiritual realm/knowledge, at my core belief level.

That is the danger of comfort blankets, they tend to get used when crises occur even more, and the whole thing with rawat is nothing if not a comfort blanket.

I do SO wish you luck, you're on one of the hardest journeys possible I reckon, but that doesn't mean you can't succeed. And that isn't just a sap throwaway feelgood comment either.
In the end however many overlaps you have with people because of the maharaji connection, your situation is unique to you. Getting your fella to see that, is the hard part I reckon.







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