I believe I used the word disturbed and not mentally ill. You do understand that I am not promoting Rawat or his so-called Knowledge in any way don't you? However, it wasn't all black and I recall most of the premies in the 70's enjoying themselves and I know I certainly did. On your own admission most of the damage that was done to you was done by someone who wasn't a bona fide "premie" in a situation that had nothing to do with DLM.I am unsure what reading his poetry would convince me of but that fact that he's a terrible poet. Right, I made the effort and read those quotes. Simplistic but to be honest when I look around I agree with parts of it, there is a lot of great beauty all around us. It has no connection with him though.