I'll happily withdraw the word "willfully" if that'll help. But the idea I was trying to put across by using it was that the annihilation was now being done by individual wills driven by individual unconscious forces, rather than in an overt collective institutionalised way. Feel free to disagree. I think Rawat and his methods are implicated in such a sneaky move.

You seem a bit quick to generalise and condem though, Paddy, so I doubt that there is much I can say further about my understandings one way or another on human history, with out inflaming you..

Thanks for you advice on how not to sound so absurd, but...(irony)

Perhaps we should just stay on topic slagging off Prem and his antics.

Bryn