Oh my god! There's ANOTHER Krishnamurti windbag??
Re: Re: you lost me there Paddy -- paddy Top of thread Forum
Posted by:
Jim ®

08/12/2005, 19:35:20
Author Profile

Edit
Alert Moderators




Paddy,

I didn't know what you meant when you said:

Don't get me wrong, if you're involved in this sort of enquiry, and heaven knows I've certainly spent most of my life in it, then K was about as good as it got. Mind you, I'd try reading U.G. Krishnamurti's stuff if I was you, it might help to clear out some of your fuzzies.

so I did some exploring. And now I see that there's ANOTHER Krishnamurti bullshit artist.  I looked some of his stuff over.  So typical.  I particularly like the way he, like the first Krishnamurti, pretends to be an "anti-guru".  Here's an introduction from a website full of poetry about their beloved U.G. Krishnamurti.  Doesn't sound too ani-guru to me!:

A collection of poems with a person as the sole subject matter may seem presumptuous and smack of hero-worship and religious cultism. Why should anyone but the writer be interested in such an act of adoration? Who is this U.G.?

Once there was a person called U.G. He grew up like everyone else, went to school, practiced various spiritual disciplines, married, had children, went practically insane, and by some chance what has been called 'the Calamity' happened to him. And then that person ceased to be. The physical organism is still here. Some habits, conditioning, and memories are still present, without, however, any force behind them, for the person who previously tied them together is now gone.

Once the person called U.G. ceased to be, Universal Energy manifested itself through U.G.'s organism. Somehow, in some inexplicable way, this Energy now seems to use all the peculiarities of whatever U.G. was in the past--his conditioning, idiosyncracies and patterns of living, indeed U.G.'s voice and his body--without being bound by any of them, to relate to the world. U.G. now functions as a Being among beings. He is "a finely-tuned instrument", responding and relating to everyone around him and yet capable of changing with circumstances with great ease. Depending on whom he is dealing with at the moment, the Universal Energy that is now U.G. may appear assertive or yielding, ruthless or loving, and yet free from the divisions of the self. (U.G. calls this state of his the "natural state", whence the title of this book.)

Although we see and deal with U.G. on the surface as a person like us, yet, inasmuch as we come to realize that he cannot be known through any pattern, we begin to suspect that there may be no person as U.G. at all. At any moment, in any context, we attribute certain characteristics to him, but we know that at the next turn we are liable to be proven wrong, that he may turn out to be the exact opposite, and that all our attributions are merely interpretations and projections based on our own predilictions, background, and self-centered interests.

Yet U.G. is nothing outside of these attributions. We do not know what to do with him. When we are ready to throw out our own hang-ups, we begin to suspect that there is nothing there in U.G. except this Energy, and that this Energy is also in us, and everywhere. And we see that U.G., being that Energy, by constantly hitting and upsetting our interests, goals, aspirations, fears and whatnot, in other words, by striking at the dam of the self in us, is continually attempting to reestablish the unity of existence. Whether he succeeds or not is not his concern. And, of course, our suspicion that there may be no person called U.G. "there" brings into question the reality of our own person.

Such an Energy calls forth itself in its dealings with us. No wonder we feel in U.G.'s presence that excitement, that sense of "unsettlement", that existential dread, that sense we may be "freaking out", and that surge of the feeling of utter love.

But in a sense, Rawat and both of these guys share something in common as all three pretend to break the mold, as it were, to be "anti-gurus".  Reminds me of the Wild-and-Crazy guy routine Steve Martin used to do.
 







Previous Recommend Current page Next

Replies to this message