I think that, broadly, during the 90's things became queerer and queerer. Programs where people weren't supposed to socialize, just get a fix from the vid, then shuffle off, trying not to be a community.

This sort of thing is against everything in the human emotional make-up and psyche. And yet - precisely because it was so, it had to be rationalised as wise as it came from the Lord.

Apart from that, people had been advised (although I personally never heard this) not to talk to each other about their experience of K.

The situation was beyond objective understanding, unless one admitted there was something seriously adrift somewhere.

So some people I knew just retreated into the mantra that it was all a personal experience and just you, M and K (the triangle), and tried to get as high as possible by focusing inside themselves, and acting like dismissive mahatmas if you tried to get them to employ a bit of sensible analysis.

Naturally, this type of retreatism is very vulnerable. It quakes at the merest approach of common sense, because it's substituting belief and faith totally for any use of reason.

Consequently, people become violent emotionally or even physically towards any outside challenge to their 'samadhi'.

I actually experienced a threat of physical violence from a semi-psychotic member of the community, and what bothered me then (and still today, incidentally, in the unlikely I ever were to attend a local program) is that the guy didn't feel any automatic sense of shame later. No, he seems to feel quite justified in potentially resorting to physical violence to defend his pacific loving state.

Anyway, while trying to process the deteriorating social interaction between premies, where any type of underhandedness and deceit against others was now acceptable if it challenged one's harmony, I saw the Passages video in 2001, and then read Glen Whittaker's pathetic attempt on-line to write the 70's generation out of M&K history, and so ended up here.