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Will ®

04/11/2005, 14:10:04
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I wonder what you really mean by the inner experience that is obtained by practicing Knowledge.  I also wonder why you are not as regular a meditator as you used to be, if the experience is becoming better and simpler and more accessible for you after all these years.

Let us assume for a moment that what you experience in meditation is not any different than what I have experienced or what Mike Finch has experienced, or any other premie who practiced diligently.  If that is the case, then we are not distinquished from one another based on that experience, but only on our beliefs about that experience.  If, on the other hand, you have actually experienced something that we have not, then please do explain to us what it is that is so wonderful that we are missing.

I will explain my own experience of Knowledge.  It is two-fold, one aspect during actual meditation and one aspect during normal waking hours.  In meditation, there is a point at which the clouds of thought dissipate to reveal a sky of clear awareness, there is a feeling of peace and heightened awareness,  there may be mental phenomenon, such a dream images, a swirling light, thoughts and feelings coming and going at various rates.  There may be a sense of joy and a sense of self.  There is also, during normal everyday activity a feeling of love, connectedness, and awareness.

What I have described is normal human experience, which all people experience to some degree or another, whether they meditate formally or not, depending on various factors in their lives.   Of course some people experience such things much than other people do.  As an ex-premie, I am certain that following Rawat and practicing the four techniques does not promote these experiences any more than hundreds of other paths can do.  In fact, it is a alot easier and much more authentic to connect to my self and those feelings without any reliance whatsoever on Rawat and those four techniques.

I no longer seek anything extraordinary to be gained by an inner journey.  I no longer seek to experience anything over and above what is natural to me as a finite human being.  I do not want to delve deep into the Infinite whilst my body is alive. 

I no longer mediate as regularly as I used to, probably for the very same reason that you don't.  I have discovered that it is not productive to do so.  I am happier, and more balanced, when I don't meditate so much.

It is my opinion that you are still very much caught up in a belief system.  If you let all your beliefs fly out the window, you would no longer have Rawat to comfort you, because Rawat is nothing but a figurehead and a icon, but you would still have yourself, and that is all you have anyway.






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