Jim,

Please stop asking Andries questions if you want him to leave.  It's not as if Andries has ever adequately reciprocated in correspondence here by answering questions -- he has never done that.

What Andries needs to do is reread his own website.  This is the page on Recovery:

http://home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba/engels/recoveryframe.html

Then he can get busy rewriting his very convoluted essay on brainwashing:

http://surrealist.org/betrayalofthespirit/brainwashing.html

But, first Andries need to realize that he's not an expert on cults, professional or otherwise.  Far from it.