Surprised there wasn't more dehumanizing fanaticism...
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Joe ®

03/03/2005, 18:49:31
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You know, I am too, although there was a fair amount. 

I think it might be because of where the people in the cult came from.  For the most part the people who got involved were not "religious seekers" or "religious fanatics" in the usual sense.  They were a bunch of peace and flowers hippies.  So, and based on what I believe to be true, that predisposition is a significant element, most of the people were actually pretty loving, and not sadistic or hateful.  So, there weren't that many of the really bizarre fanatics around.

Some people like Smith, yes, some of the Mahatamas like Fakiranand and Jagdeo, and people like that, and then just some people who were heavy and intense, or mentally distrubed.  And we had all of those.  So, that's why I don't think it was worse than it was.

Another thing that Rawat did that I think was "good" in that sense, is that he never really let anybody get much in the way of power and when they did they didnt' hold it very long.  Rawat, I think, was pretty jealous and paranoid of anybody getting too much power or admiration and he was always shooting them down.  So, except for the Mahatmas in the beginning (especially Mahatmas who ruled things almost completely in isolated countries,  like Padarthanand in Australia), there wasn't much opportunity for any of the real fanatics to have power for very long.

So, in that sense, Rawat did something good in probably minimizing that.  Even Smith didn't have power for very long, and I have it on good authority that when people like him went to meet with Rawat it was kind of a lesson in humiliation.  Rawat made fun of them, put them down, ragged on them for whatever, and just made it clear they shouldn't think for themselves.

And talking about the continuum of fanaticism (spaced out premie, community premie, ashram premie, initiator, etc.), I think the thing that is common to that is everybody kind of thinks they are better than the other group, and being criticized and put down is kind of a badge of honor.

So, ashram premies felt superior to community premies, and they also felt that any criticism from the community premies was a little cross they could bear for Rawat.  And people might tell Smith he was nut, and they did, but to him that was just a sign that he was being a true soldier for the Lord, he was being tested, and he just had to surrender more.

Actually, most premies, I think still believe that.  They feel superior to ex-premies who are "confused," and to others in the world who don't have knowledge, and they expect that the Perfect Master will have oppostion and take criticism.  It's just more proof that that's who he is.

So, for the truly fanatical, criticsm of  Rawat just makes them more committed.  And I think with people like Smith it did the same thing, or at least that's what I observed.

 






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