How many lists do I have to give you before you quit rationalising? When any one of the criticisms stated could be enough to demolish M's credentials. I guess that's what being in a cult does for you.

While the list was spontanteous and from memory, I know almost all of it is documented with first-hand accounts. No rumour, no speculation, just plain history. You wanna know about the abuses at DECA? Ask Cynthia, who posts here. (I believe she also had to clean M's gold-plated toilet.) And so forth. It's all substantiated.

Ignore it if you like, Jonx, but you are lying to yourself and that's pitiful. How valid can your "experience" be, when it demands such self-delusion?

No experience is worth such wilful avoidance of the truth.

Neville B