Hi,

the question wether M is God or not was one from the beginning on. I got K in 73. I had always discussions about that with premiefriends. Even so it was very easy to get that impression that M talks about himself in the third person as he is God. For me this was always obscure, but it doesn't matter so much. For my understanding, M had to be honored as he was God, because that was the way to get in contact with the true God inside. I would say this is common Hindutradition and so far maybe nothing is wrong with that, so far that person is integer, authentic and reliable. For me Jesus was not God and even Buddha or Krishna or Mohammed and so on. But I understand that those persons could have been and still can fullfill the highest standard of human qualities. So far I believed that M fullfills these high standards and is one of the most remarkable person in this world. The discussion wether he declared himself as God sounds still a little bit stupid to me because and so far I think the modern premies ( k up from 90) don't have this concept and this problem. They are pretty older and not so naiv as we were as youngsters, grown up in hippie times.

I really don't know the best way to argue with premies. I tried it many times since I think that M abuses them. But they want to believe that M is giving them a sense of being and they need it. Maybe it is the same reason why people follow  any other kind of  obscure things , to substitut a lake of indenty or wanting to be a part of something important.

But for me one thing is clear, there is nothing more in the world of Rawat I truely like. And it is true that I am embaressed that I invested so much of my time and personality in a Guru and his organisation, that was always hard to digest. Today for me Rawat is nothing than a powerfull narcisstic person and he will gather around him people with somekind of narcisstic personality disorder. But we live in a narcisstic world and so far we don't want to get healt from that people will hang on to that.

For me I can say I was a long time secretly proud to be a part of Rawats world but  in one or the other way  it was perverted and so it was better not to talk to loud about it.

love and mindfullness  ................wolfie