Barker: Very often there is a charismatic leader. I am using "charismatic" in the Weberian sense of the authority that is accorded by the followers being charismatic, in so far as it is not bound by rules or by tradition and the charismatic leader has the right to say what the followers will do in all aspects of their life--whom they will sleep with, whom they will marry, whether they will have children, what sort of work they will do, in what country they will live--perhaps whether they will live--and what toothpaste they will use. It really can cover anything; and it can be changed at a moment's notice. [..]

Barker [..] I remember when I first saw Reverend Sun Myung Moon. I was watching with some other people while he was talking and gesticulating in Korean, and it really reminded me more of Hitler than of anyone else. Several people were quite upset, despite the fact that the interpreter was saying things such as: "Well, you must love each other." Then I saw a whole lot of Unificationists (or "Moonies," as they were called), and they were looking enraptured, their eyes were aglow, they were seeing something quite different from what the rest of us were seeing. [..]