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RIP: Max von Sydow --- eDrek ( Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 10:47:45 ) (164 reads) ( 326 bytes ) link img +1
I was wondering about something like this --- eDrek ( Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 16:53:08 ) (148 reads) ( 642 bytes ) link
Trump Proposes 16% Cut To CDC --- eDrek ( Mon, Mar 09, 2020, 11:19:05 ) (165 reads) ( 1397 bytes ) link +1
ALERT: Pandemic projection model shows 2.16 million deaths in USA by July 4th... --- karenl ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 18:03:48 ) (202 reads) ( 754 bytes ) link +9
CPAC attendee tested positive for coronavirus --- eDrek ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 18:50:30 ) (152 reads) ( 772 bytes ) link +1
Cult of Family Trump: Ivanka for president --- eDrek ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 18:57:47 ) (135 reads) ( 690 bytes ) link
The Fascist roots of Melania's "I don't care" --- karenl ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 17:24:52 ) (141 reads) ( 1187 bytes ) link +1
Cult of Stooopid Trump premies: Coronavirus is a Democrat hoax --- eDrek ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 17:23:36 ) (158 reads) ( 996 bytes ) link img +1
Bad economic news even before COVID-19 --- karenl ( Sat, Mar 07, 2020, 17:21:06 ) (124 reads) ( 942 bytes ) link +1
Cult of Trump: Fact Check with 14 lies --- eDrek ( Fri, Mar 06, 2020, 17:04:41 ) (153 reads) ( 2285 bytes ) link
Doctor Trump recommends going to work if you have Coronavirus --- eDrek ( Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 11:14:21 ) (166 reads) ( 1720 bytes ) link img +4
Sorry Elon Musk, I refuse to die on Mars --- eDrek ( Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 16:38:15 ) (158 reads) ( 2717 bytes ) link +1
Susie Essman Roasts Donald Trump (YouTube) --- eDrek ( Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 16:28:50 ) (203 reads) ( 1053 bytes ) link
*NEW* Prescription for Coronavirus Fever --- eDrek ( Thu, Mar 05, 2020, 10:53:47 ) (151 reads) ( 158 bytes ) img
Cult of the Liar: Trump falsely blames Obama for Coronavirus testing delays --- eDrek ( Wed, Mar 04, 2020, 17:06:50 ) (169 reads) ( 1743 bytes ) link +1
Cult of Trump the Liar: Mexico is paying for the Wall --- eDrek ( Tue, Mar 03, 2020, 11:36:06 ) (199 reads) ( 2201 bytes ) link +5
Good morning here from Tel Aviv - the third relection in 6 months --- snow-white ( Sun, Mar 01, 2020, 22:40:45 ) (184 reads) ( 488 bytes ) +3
Something very important... --- eDrek ( Mon, Mar 02, 2020, 19:38:39 ) (163 reads) ( 1172 bytes ) link img
Cult of Bernie: I hate to say this, but $60 trillion is a lot of Free Lunches --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 17:10:18 ) (219 reads) ( 3534 bytes ) link +11
Cult of Trump: The Caronavirus, the lies, the mistrust of scientists and experts --- eDrek ( Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 16:51:49 ) (220 reads) ( 2168 bytes ) link +12
Cult of Doctor Trump: Ebola czar calls White House's move an 'outrage' --- eDrek ( Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 19:34:47 ) (150 reads) ( 236 bytes ) +1
Cult of Trump: Lying about the Coronavirus! --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 17:43:40 ) (161 reads) ( 2296 bytes ) link +2
Cult of Republicans: I was going to give this GOP candidate a pass, but... --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 17:30:38 ) (140 reads) ( 18 bytes ) link
Cult of the Absurd: I am unable to describe this right now --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 17:21:43 ) (168 reads) ( 1714 bytes ) link img
Cult of Trump: Fear of Flying and Fear of Vegetables --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 16:18:06 ) (151 reads) ( 1698 bytes ) link
Cult of the Flat Earth: I never thought this would happen --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 12:44:59 ) (147 reads) ( 916 bytes ) link +2
Cult of Trump: Buying the American Farmer vote --- eDrek ( Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 17:47:15 ) (146 reads) ( 2084 bytes ) link +2
  • Dear eDrek --- snow-white ( Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 23:14:40 ) (135 reads) ( 265 bytes ) +1
    • Re: Dear eDrek --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 23, 2020, 10:32:10 ) (130 reads) ( 93 bytes )
Cult of Trump: Donald does not like foreign films --- eDrek ( Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:19:08 ) (138 reads) ( 647 bytes ) link
Cult of Trump: Intelligence officials say Russia trying to get Trump reelected --- eDrek ( Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 16:57:04 ) (145 reads) ( 1606 bytes ) link
Cult of Trump: Be Best and online bullying --- eDrek ( Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 16:32:14 ) (150 reads) ( 1396 bytes ) link img
Evidence, Lesley? --- Jim ( Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 12:35:28 ) (240 reads) ( 4367 bytes ) link +8
Luckily, we really don't need ANY coral reefs. They'll be gone 2100. --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 18, 2020, 19:42:16 ) (192 reads) ( 764 bytes ) link +2
Hey Lesley... --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 17, 2020, 15:39:12 ) (152 reads) ( 145 bytes )
Former prosecutors and DOJ officials call on Attorney General Barr to resign --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 15:40:44 ) (187 reads) ( 1379 bytes ) link
Cult of Trump: Trump makes 86 false claims over two weeks --- eDrek ( Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 11:19:12 ) (290 reads) ( 1805 bytes ) link +31
Warmest January on Record Globally --- eDrek ( Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 16:02:52 ) (155 reads) ( 579 bytes ) link img +3
A knitter escapes the TDS cult --- Jim ( Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 11:37:59 ) (192 reads) ( 320 bytes ) link
Climate change models predicted ocean currents would speed up, but... --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 16:28:58 ) (178 reads) ( 519 bytes ) link +2
Nice swing! --- eDrek ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 17:17:22 ) (167 reads) ( 76 bytes ) img +1
  • Re: Nice swing! --- eDrek ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 17:43:21 ) (144 reads) ( 56 bytes )
Trump Derangement Syndrome leads to violence --- Jim ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 13:39:41 ) (189 reads) ( 3152 bytes ) link
Read this carefully - was it Seth Rich after all? Amazing! --- Jim ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 11:57:01 ) (166 reads) ( 461 bytes ) link
Nunes explains to Dobbs how the crooked Mueller team now faces accountability --- Jim ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 11:28:48 ) (155 reads) ( 1448 bytes ) link
Double delete --- Jim ( Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 11:27:31 ) (115 reads) ( 6 bytes ) link
Just another banana Republic --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 19:12:29 ) (139 reads) ( 613 bytes )
Climate Change is just another lefty hoax, right? --- eDrek ( Sat, Feb 08, 2020, 14:16:09 ) (192 reads) ( 425 bytes ) link +27
Cult of Trump: One big inclusive tent for everybody (almost) --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 11:11:34 ) (157 reads) ( 1010 bytes ) link +2
Cult of Trump: Acquittal Shows The GOP Senate Acts Like A Cult --- eDrek ( Sat, Feb 08, 2020, 11:11:42 ) (176 reads) ( 2290 bytes ) link img
Cult of Trump: Such a SEXY guy!!!! --- eDrek ( Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 16:55:37 ) (147 reads) ( 48 bytes ) img +2
Cult of Trump: Biggest Whoppers From Trump’s State Of The Union --- eDrek ( Wed, Feb 05, 2020, 11:11:11 ) (189 reads) ( 1689 bytes ) link +10
Jim, let me ask you something else. --- aunt bea ( Thu, Feb 06, 2020, 04:53:52 ) (210 reads) ( 80 bytes ) +2
Was there ever a more corrupt politician in America than Joe Biden? --- Jim ( Sat, Feb 01, 2020, 14:22:42 ) (257 reads) ( 1041 bytes ) link +27
Cult of Trump: Hurry! Dear Leader is on the television now! --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 04, 2020, 20:17:02 ) (135 reads) ( 253 bytes ) img
The Trump Shit Show: Send in the clowns --- eDrek ( Tue, Feb 04, 2020, 10:19:43 ) (164 reads) ( 1863 bytes ) link
Even More from the Cult of Trump: It’s Missouri you stone cold idiot --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 18:01:37 ) (191 reads) ( 1399 bytes ) link img
How is Schiff NOT totally dishonest? - DELETED --- Jim ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 14:04:17 ) (136 reads) ( 7 bytes )
How is Schiff NOT totally dishonest? --- Jim ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 14:03:34 ) (154 reads) ( 1280 bytes )
Trump so much has the truth on his side it's not funny. Well it is, kinda --- Jim ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 12:22:56 ) (172 reads) ( 1502 bytes ) link
Lesley's weather report --- lesley ( Sun, Feb 02, 2020, 18:53:50 ) (144 reads) ( 891 bytes ) file img +3
  • Re: Lesley's weather report --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 11:41:01 ) (113 reads) ( 99 bytes ) +1
    • thanks --- lesley ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 17:41:15 ) (123 reads) ( 143 bytes ) +1
      • Re: thanks --- eDrek ( Mon, Feb 03, 2020, 18:04:51 ) (125 reads) ( 154 bytes )
Cult of Trump: They voted for no witnesses and no docs, but truth is coming out --- eDrek ( Sun, Feb 02, 2020, 15:10:43 ) (177 reads) ( 2528 bytes ) link
Cult of Trump: Wilbur Ross says Coronavirus will be good for US jobs --- eDrek ( Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 10:48:10 ) (225 reads) ( 853 bytes ) link img +1
  • What a scum --- snow-white ( Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 23:57:30 ) (171 reads) ( 2 bytes )
Cult of Trump: The Alan Dershowitz Show - Dangerous nonsense --- eDrek ( Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 11:16:34 ) (202 reads) ( 834 bytes ) link
Menstrual tracking apps: Facebook defends as "industry standard practice... --- eDrek ( Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:34:17 ) (216 reads) ( 2177 bytes ) link img +1
The Dems and their MSM are afraid to even try to refute Bondi and Herschmann --- Jim ( Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 15:13:24 ) (233 reads) ( 1066 bytes ) link
Latest news on the Cult of Trump --- eDrek ( Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:49:41 ) (156 reads) ( 69 bytes ) +1
Another GOP Trump supporter sexist scum bag --- eDrek ( Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 14:29:55 ) (201 reads) ( 1738 bytes ) link img +2
More whopping lies from Trump about decline in cancer deaths --- eDrek ( Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 12:28:41 ) (235 reads) ( 1530 bytes ) link +9
Lies, the bread of life for the Cult of Trump --- eDrek ( Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 21:07:34 ) (187 reads) ( 549 bytes ) link
Lock her up! Lock her up! --- eDrek ( Fri, Jan 10, 2020, 10:43:06 ) (179 reads) ( 1316 bytes ) link +2
A really cool temporary tattoo machine for only $269 --- eDrek ( Wed, Jan 08, 2020, 11:05:29 ) (237 reads) ( 563 bytes ) link img +4
You must love Trump to prove you're 'Saved' says Jim Bakker --- eDrek ( Tue, Jan 07, 2020, 11:07:00 ) (220 reads) ( 922 bytes ) link +1
If you see something, say something --- eDrek ( Mon, Jan 06, 2020, 19:45:57 ) (149 reads) ( 64 bytes ) img
Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Jesus - Thou shall not kill --- eDrek ( Mon, Jan 06, 2020, 17:10:50 ) (168 reads) ( 728 bytes ) link img
Aunt Bea and Wolfie, 13, where’s the discussion now? --- Jim ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 13:37:46 ) (178 reads) ( 174 bytes ) +26
My substantive reply to Aunt Bea (Part 1) --- Jim ( Sat, Jan 04, 2020, 14:23:18 ) (162 reads) ( 43.6 KB ) +3
Iraqi Parliament Votes To Expel Foreign Troops After Soleimani Killing --- eDrek ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 12:11:25 ) (157 reads) ( 1225 bytes ) link
Vice President Mike Pence Slammed After Falsely Linking Soleimani To 9/11 --- eDrek ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 12:02:34 ) (159 reads) ( 745 bytes ) link
More George - holy cow this is crazy! --- Jim ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 06:43:21 ) (162 reads) ( 294 bytes ) link
Will the US be at war with Iran? --- eDrek ( Fri, Jan 03, 2020, 17:13:35 ) (211 reads) ( 544 bytes ) +35
And how about George? --- Jim ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 05:27:49 ) (171 reads) ( 210 bytes ) link
Trump's spiritual advisor --- Quirky ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 00:20:46 ) (187 reads) ( 97 bytes ) +2
What do you think? Rudy right or wrong? --- Jim ( Sun, Jan 05, 2020, 04:17:15 ) (165 reads) ( 510 bytes ) link
I liked this story --- eDrek ( Wed, Jan 01, 2020, 17:42:12 ) (175 reads) ( 815 bytes ) link img +1
Ukraine freeze of funds came directly from Trump --- eDrek ( Thu, Jan 02, 2020, 15:31:28 ) (157 reads) ( 887 bytes ) link
Apocalypse Now --- eDrek ( Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 11:50:50 ) (163 reads) ( 316 bytes )
So the question is... --- 13 ( Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 05:21:50 ) (158 reads) ( 430 bytes ) +4
Debating Steve Hassan on "The Cult of Trump" --- Jim ( Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 23:33:21 ) (423 reads) ( 221 bytes ) link +58
GOP Senator: Trump Is Not A Role Model For Young People --- eDrek ( Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:22:22 ) (147 reads) ( 992 bytes ) link
Giuliani claims he's 'more of a Jew' than Holocaust survivor George Soros --- eDrek ( Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 15:39:53 ) (181 reads) ( 1083 bytes ) link +4
Native Americans Told To ‘Go Back’ To Where They Came From --- eDrek ( Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 14:21:06 ) (196 reads) ( 1291 bytes ) link
Trump says that women complain to HIM about dishwasher machines --- eDrek ( Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 16:40:21 ) (129 reads) ( 333 bytes )
Former Republican governor of Kentucky gives pardons out like candy --- eDrek ( Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 11:24:46 ) (199 reads) ( 1942 bytes ) link +2
On Facebook one cult tries to protect Trump --- eDrek ( Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 12:55:52 ) (163 reads) ( 1959 bytes ) link img
Woman said she ran over a 14-year-old girl because she 'was a Mexican' --- eDrek ( Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 11:08:05 ) (172 reads) ( 740 bytes ) link img +1
Is anybody out there? --- eDrek ( Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 18:18:35 ) (212 reads) ( 946 bytes ) img +8
Trump warns Kim could lose 'special relationship' --- eDrek ( Sun, Dec 08, 2019, 19:22:57 ) (215 reads) ( 1198 bytes ) link +7
Yes, a nice Republican boy to date and marry --- eDrek ( Wed, Dec 11, 2019, 15:36:05 ) (186 reads) ( 1497 bytes ) link img
"It looks like a cult. It walks like a cult. It quacks like a cult." --- eDrek ( Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 10:33:21 ) (325 reads) ( 1160 bytes ) link +13
weather report --- lesley ( Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 15:16:44 ) (120 reads) ( 1418 bytes )
Something for everyone! --- eDrek ( Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 00:19:06 ) (188 reads) ( 857 bytes ) link
Believe me! Everyone knows it. Biggest in history. --- eDrek ( Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 17:53:49 ) (275 reads) ( 1121 bytes ) link img +1
Here's something we can all agree on and get behind --- eDrek ( Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 15:13:57 ) (285 reads) ( 1596 bytes ) link img +6
Steve Hassan and "The Cult of Trump" --- Jim ( Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 11:31:52 ) (394 reads) ( 17.2 KB ) link +18
Trump associate Roger Stone found guilty of lies that protected Trump --- eDrek ( Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 12:46:49 ) (270 reads) ( 962 bytes ) link img +4
Who would you rather? --- eDrek ( Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 16:09:27 ) (154 reads) ( 675 bytes ) img
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