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And he compares Trump to Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler - ie making the same observation of him being a monster that I did. Though going on to say that he is a good monster - can't remember the words he used but suggesting he is a saviour not an oppressor. Lesley, please, Bawer didn't at all call Trump a "monster", good or bad. The comparison was in one respect only and that's his singular impact on the the world stage: "The point is that the Trump ascendancy is, in modern times, unique. To find a rough counterpart to his utter domination of the society and culture, you have to look to the great dictators, from antiquity right up to the twentieth century – Caesar, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao. The big difference, of course, is that Trump, whatever his detractors may say, is the furthest thing from a dictator: he’s a liberator." (Emphasis added) Which, when you think of it, makes great sense, doesn't it? Just in how these last nine years have been preoccupied with Trump to an unprecedented degree. The questions then follow as to why and all that but that was Bawer's point. You twisted it. And this "embodiment of the Consitution" -- what does that mean? Biden and the Dems, in my view, are doing so much to erode the Constitution in myriad ways. There are countless examples of them breaking with precedent, some going back to the nation's inception, some at least the 19th century, to undermine and dismantle the structure of the constitutional republic with its carefully balanced power-sharing between the executive, legislative and judicial branches. Do you know what I'm talking about? If you had to guess, could you? I ask because people, both American and certainly foreigners like yourself, are often willing to casually throw these kinds of accusations against Trump and Republicans with no apparent recognition of how it's the Dems who are ignoring and attacking the constitution at every step. Just this week, for instance, failing to take up Mayorkas' impeachment in the senate was unsuprising now, given how radical the Dems have become, but still a sad step towards weakening the very foundation of congressional oversight. And what were the Republicans trying to impeach him for to begin with? Nothing less than being the point-man on Biden's abandonment of the southern border, opening the floodgates to at least 10 million illegal aliens so far, encouraging them to cross into America, secretly flying planeloads across the country and subsidizing their unlawful encampment to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars and at the expense in all ways, personal safety not the least of them, of actual citizens. Can you imagine if the Australian government did that? Do you know why Biden's doing it anyway? Any ideas? But back to the point -- the senate has never simply turned away an impeachment from the house without a trial before. Nor, of course, have we ever seen this outrageous deployment of the criminal justice system against a presidential candidate. All of the cases are ridiculous but none more than the current one Trump's facing as we speak. Do you know much about it? Anything? Do you have even the slightest idea of all the ways it's an astoundingly unique manipulation of the law simply to crush Biden's opponent? I could go through it all, sure, but I wonder first, what do you know about it? You're asking me to speculate on how Trump supporters would react if Trump were jailed but isn't there a more fundamental question -- How in the world is this even happening? -- that you're casually floating past as if there's nothing the least bit unusual about some progressive hack, bolstered by Soros money in his nation-wide campaign to financially swamp all opponents in attorney general elections across America, running on a campaign to get one man, getting elected and then creating this blatantly illegal basis to charge Trump with some kind of federal election offence? Do you know anything about it? Or how about Trump being stuck in court every day for possible months by a judge whose daughter literally makes millions making more millions for the Biden campaign, and thereby keeping him on something akin to courtroom house arrest to impede his campaigning? Or how about the other Soros-funded far-left attack dog, James, who also ran on a single campaign promise -- to get Trump - trying to bankrupt him on yet another thin-beyond-imagination corrupt legal theory? I have no idea what kind of violence might follow if Trump supporters believe the election was stolen (again!) in 2024. We do know that the Dems, media and outrageously dishonest J6 committee tried to conjur a phony "insurrection" story after the riot on J6, one that was spiced up, seeded and invited by the FBI, Pelosi and various others. Do you know about that at all? Do you know about the pipe bombs? What pipe bombs? Anything? I think that whoever wins the election, the fallout will be cataclysmic. Trump won in 2016 and immediately the Dems, with Obama's consent, tried to frame him as a Russian stooge even as leftists rioted violently. Do you know about that at all? Did any of the media you follow cover it? To speculate as best I can, no I don't think that Trump supporters will react anymore violently than they did the first time the election was stolen. As for articles, sorry, I can't see why one, you or me, or anyone, would limit themselves that way. It's a mix. Yes, I can speak for myself but sometimes others have much more to offer, either in terms of their knowledge, analysis or simply eloquence and expression. Bruce Bawer made some what I found incredible insightful points about Trump's unique position historically but it seems like you didn't get them. So now you have my points. I say you don't know anywhere near enough about any of this because, again, your understanding derives from a very untrustworthy media which one must look past to get the real story. And I'm sure that's true in Australia as well. So I'll ask you the converse question of your own, do you think there will be "fighting" if Trump is elected? Modified by Jim at Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 13:19:27 |
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